lampingman Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Hi everyone iv got a daystate x2 .22 fac wanting a better scope than the 3_9x40 its got on it now any advice welcome thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 That s a good all rounder. Go for good glass and that's half the battle.i don't like anything too heavy or big.just personal notions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Why? what are you thinking? 3-9x 40 scopes go on way flatter longer range guns than an FAC airgun. Better quality glass I always think is a good idea if funds allow but bigger isn't always better I run my .22 lr on a 6x42 these days, its seen many bigger scopes in its days but this is the best in use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampingman Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Thanks for replies any suggestions on makes , models I'm keeping an open mind on budget to around £ 300 thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Why? what are you thinking? 3-9x 40 scopes go on way flatter longer range guns than an FAC airgun. Better quality glass I always think is a good idea if funds allow but bigger isn't always better I run my .22 lr on a 6x42 these days, its seen many bigger scopes in its days but this is the best in use +1 colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) For around that mark new I would have a look at some of the MTC range if you like the reticule you get a lot of scope for your money. Another options is the Hawke Sidewinder range. Edited November 5, 2013 by Zetter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampingman Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 +1 colin It's just the one on it is only a cheapy the gun needs a better scope to get full potential out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) if the one you have is not up to it then a change is in order i would go for better quality glass and not worry too much about mag i have a 3 x 9 x 40 on my lr and hmr and its plenty good enough for the distances they shoot but that's just me some people like spending more than they need to colin for a fac air i personally would't spend more than £100-£125 Edited November 5, 2013 by colin lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 To be honest mate a Hawke panorama or anything similar should do all you need. Great glass isn't gonna put more stuff in the bag and the jump in quailty is not so great going from say 100 quid to 300 quid Now if ya spend 6-700 quid your gonna be into some serious glass. That is a 14 shot group shot yesterday with fac air on my dinner break off my bonnet at a measured 40 yards. With a 60 quid richter optics 6-24x50 lol. Not lost zero in constant daily use and has no turret caps. Now if I was really in the the need to spend 300 would have to be a sidewinder with hawke map12 ret me thinks. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampingman Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 if the one you have is not up to it then a change is in order i would go for better quality glass and not worry too much about mag i have a 3 x 9 x 40 on my lr and hmr and its plenty good enough for the distances they shoot but that's just me some people like spending more than they need to colin for a fac air i personally would't spend more than £100-£125 what scopes do you use on your rimfires Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampingman Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 To be honest mate a Hawke panorama or anything similar should do all you need. Great glass isn't gonna put more stuff in the bag and the jump in quailty is not so great going from say 100 quid to 300 quid Now if ya spend 6-700 quid your gonna be into some serious glass. That is a 14 shot group shot yesterday with fac air on my dinner break off my bonnet at a measured 40 yards. With a 60 quid richter optics 6-24x50 lol. Not lost zero in constant daily use and has no turret caps. Now if I was really in the the need to spend 300 would have to be a sidewinder with hawke map12 ret me thinks. Karpman nowt wrong with that grouping thanks this is what I'm after peoples experience with a scope that would suit me don't want to buy without a bit of research I'm sure we have all wasted enough money already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 nowt wrong with that grouping thanks this is what I'm after peoples experience with a scope that would suit me don't want to buy without a bit of research I'm sure we have all wasted enough money already Don't get me wrong bud I'm yearning for a new scope. As soon as funds allow I shall be getting one lol. The glass I'm getting a panorama 4-12x50 or whatever will do just the same I suppose. But I like it and I want it and sometimes that's enough lol. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 nowt wrong with that grouping thanks this is what I'm after peoples experience with a scope that would suit me don't want to buy without a bit of research I'm sure we have all wasted enough money already crickey you need to check your zero, not accurate at 40yrds that, has your barrel taken a knock :whistling: only joking, nice grouping atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 i have a hawke and a bsa and they are both nice and clear i also have a spare a optisan 3x9x50 that cost me £75 i took off my aa410 when i sold it i keep it as a spare in case i have a problem with one of my others and would't think twice about putting it on a rim fire, best thing you can do is go in a good shop and look through a few local shop to me has about 15-20 mounted on dummy gun butts to look through ranging from £100 -£250 and as karpman said the difference is minimal they all seem good its just the extra gadgets on them for me i just want it clear with a cross hair i can see i only shoot at 7 mag just my opinion colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 i have a mtc 10 x 40 on my fac airwolf.cost about £140 .great scope for the money bit to much power at 10 yrd or so but i knew that when i bought it.the cross hairs are very usefull though if you take some time to map it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 i have a mtc 10 x 40 on my fac airwolf.cost about £140 .great scope for the money bit to much power at 10 yrd or so but i knew that when i bought it.the cross hairs are very usefull though if you take some time to map it outYeah this is one of the reasons I like hawke. Chairgun pro on my i5. Don't think its compatible with some of the MTC rets. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I've got a MTC Genesis on my HMR and I'm considering getting another one for my S410 FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 My vote would be for a Hawke Panorama half mildot or a MTC Mamber SCB. Both are well under £300. How ever if you wanted to push the boat out then a Hawke sidewinder 30 with SR Pro reticule would be brilliant ! I loomed through one a few weeks ago and loved it, considering one for each of my rifles ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Have a look on YOU TUBE Si Pittaway at Sandwell field sports. He has an HW 97 KT tuned and then gets a Hawke Panorama to top it of. He takes it out and zeros it and then starts shooting bottle tops at 60 yds with a springer. The Hawke Panorama is outstanding for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) My vote would be for a Hawke Panorama half mildot or a MTC Mamber SCB. Both are well under £300. How ever if you wanted to push the boat out then a Hawke sidewinder 30 with SR Pro reticule would be brilliant ! I loomed through one a few weeks ago and loved it, considering one for each of my rifles ! ATB Matt I've just got myself a Sidewinder and they're pretty tasty. The optics in them are superb and the 3-12x50 has got quite a short tube, so it's not as heavy as it could have been - it's a couble of grams lighter than the Mamba 4-16 model. Having said that, I only went for it because I use mine a lot at night (I'm off now as it happens!) and I don't find AO lenses easy to handle with the NS200 on them, so i wanted side focus. The Nite-eye digital doesn't hold the tube on well because of the quite bulky digital IR unit, so my choices got quite narrow quite quickly! If i didn't have to worry about that lot, the Panorama EV would have been the one I'd have gone for. they're cracking scopes and because of the way their glass is designed, you don't need a big objective to get a good field of view. Edited November 6, 2013 by chrisjpainter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 MTC Viper,MTC Connect or Simmons WTC-all excellent scopes and ideal for what you need. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 For £300 you cannot go wrong with the Hawke Sidewinder Tac 30 mate. I have those on each of my rifles, are absolutely brilliant for the money.... They're lighter than the MTC range(had those before) better glass and better reticle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 +1 colin +2 i find ags very good had a 3x9 on my fac mk4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chancer2 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 For a cheap reasonable one you could look at Fox Firearms, Diggle Ranges. Lot of people like and dislike them. 8-32x44 =£105. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampingman Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Il be going to gunshop to have a proper look at hawke panarama and sidewinder thanks for all your replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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