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the Opinel knives, are they lock knives ? or just knives that can be locked IE not automatic locking

They are considered lock knives, but they sell a non-locking version.

Is there a good website that sells uk legal knives?

Check the Heinnie Haynes link I posted above. Edited by aris
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This only applies in the case of you not having to show lawful auhority or reasonable excuse. If you have a knife of any length or size with you then as long as you can show either of those things it is perfectly legal. If you have it because you are using it as part of your job or some legitimate activity you are carrying out then I can't see how that is not going to be reasonable excuse.

 

Skinning knives are usually longer than three inches and people out stalking don't get prosecuted for being in possession.

 

J.

 

 

It depends why he had it. If he had it as part of his work then he had reasonable excuse. If he was carrying it as a weapon to defend him self then he didn't and is a moron.

 

J.

a fellow carpenter

 

This only applies in the case of you not having to show lawful auhority or reasonable excuse. If you have a knife of any length or size with you then as long as you can show either of those things it is perfectly legal. If you have it because you are using it as part of your job or some legitimate activity you are carrying out then I can't see how that is not going to be reasonable excuse.

 

Skinning knives are usually longer than three inches and people out stalking don't get prosecuted for being in possession.

 

J.

 

 

It depends why he had it. If he had it as part of his work then he had reasonable excuse. If he was carrying it as a weapon to defend him self then he didn't and is a moron.

 

J.

a fellow carpenter
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Just curious but why does the locking element on a knife make it more dangerous to carry than a non locking knife ?

My nieces boyfriend was recently slashed across the face with a Stanley knife/craft knife in a minor altercation would these be classed as locking or non locking knife ?

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Just curious but why does the locking element on a knife make it more dangerous to carry than a non locking knife ?

My nieces boyfriend was recently slashed across the face with a Stanley knife/craft knife in a minor altercation would these be classed as locking or non locking knife ?

 

From memory, the law doesn't actually mention locking or non-locking. It uses a phrase like "capable of folding". Unfortunately a court case ruled that a locking knife is not "capapble of folding" so that is now case law and sets a precedant.

 

I guess the original thinking was that an easy folding knife is less likley to be used for stabbing.

 

(A stanley etc can cause serious flesh wounds but isn't generally as lethal as being stabbed with a longer blade? Either way a stanley isn't capable of folding so is effectively a "lock" knife - therefore the fact it is only a short blade makes no difference to the requirement for needing a reasonable excuse to carry).

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As mentioned above, below 3 inches and does not lock and reasonable excuse to have one at the time, job or hobby etc. Probably easier to explain if you live out in the sticks. it will be a bit more difficult if your in a built up place, near to shops, sporting grounds etc.

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Just wondering if anybody carries a machete in there car for hide and undergrowth clearing .How would we stand if police searched truck and found that ?

 

I carry a machete, bread knife and at least one fixed/folding knife along with a folding saw in my truck. The machete is great for making hides, hacking mature ivy off of trees etc. The bread knife is for cutting turf around shrubs at work. Folding knife is for gutting the stuff I shoot, cutting string, whatever comes up.

 

All but the little knife live behind the rear seat in the truck. It's not easy to access from in the cab, in fact you need to get out to get the seat to hinge forward to get to them. The small folder lives in the compartment between the seats but is buried in all sorts of junk, so not exactly to hand either.

 

I did once have a young copper have a moan at me about having my folding pruning saw on the dash when I was between jobs. Strangely, after a good lecture from a polite but obviously miffed me, he got over it and went on his way! I think half the folk that get bother over these things must talk to the copper that stops them with a bit of attitude? In all the times I've dealt with the police they have been fine, even when matters have been pretty serious! At the end of the day if you talk to a copper like he's a ****, he's going to return the favour by acting like one.

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This topic is confusing me, you can carry and use whatever knife you like.

 

IF you have lawful authority or reasonable excuse!

 

So, if you are going shooting, or returning, you can carry a machete/axe/hunting knife/cleaver/etc. if you like, likewise if you are a butcher, chef, tree surgeon, gardener, whatever, so what is the problem?

 

If you go down the pub carrying a 24" machete the odds are you may have some explaining to do, but if you stop at the pub on the way home and any knife you may have is with your tools in your motor there isn't a problem, so I'm struggling to understand why this topic is 44 posts long...already!

 

Are you really all trying to decide what knife is legal to take down the night club?

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I was pulled (unnecessarily and without charge I may add!) and had a 6" divers knife in the "Cabin"

 

"thats an offensive weapon" says he

"well don't look in the boot then mate as there are a shed load more! my whole tool box, numerous cutting implements and several garden tools are in there!"

 

we agreed to disagree, I explained what I had been using it for, he realised I would be wasting the courts time being chased for something he would struggle to make stick!

 

your car IS NOT a public place. never has been, never will be.

It is a lockable container. no different to a post box.

 

how if it is satisfactory for you to leave a firearm sleaved but out of sight in a locked vehicle but you can't have a knife?

you have demonstrated good reason to carry a firearm......are you telling me you can't demonstrate good reason to carry that knife?

 

and if you cant then don't carry one!

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Think of it this way, your pocket is not a public place, especially when it's in your living room, however when you walk on a pavement you are in a public place. Therefore your pocket is in a public place. So is whatever is in your pocket and it's contents.

When your on the pavement/street/pub its in a public place.

The same applies to you car.

That's the law.

Re the knives, as has been said if you can justify it it's legal as with pretty much anything in life.

Folding pocket knives with A cutting edge of less than 3 inch are exempt from reasonably excuse but cannot be carried as a weapon, nor can anything else for that matter, not even a sharply folder paper plane if you intend to use it as a weapon.

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As mentioned above, below 3 inches and does not lock and reasonable excuse to have one at the time, job or hobby etc. Probably easier to explain if you live out in the sticks. it will be a bit more difficult if your in a built up place, near to shops, sporting grounds etc.

No reasonable excuse needed for a folding, non-locking blade under three inches.

 

J.

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