pegleg31 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Are they any good and do they save on fuel consumption? I'm thinking something like this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Diesel-Chip-Tuning-Box-Opel-Vivaro-2-5-CDTI-146-hp-Ecu-Remapping-/190977757716?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c77295214 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I have no doubt that they work, but it would have an effect on your insurance. Fail to declare it at your peril. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 The digital ones are good at smoothing out any flat spots in the torque curve if you don't want to alter the performance. Other than increase or decrease the power. I prefer the tuning boxes to chips or remapping as they can be removed in seconds and some are variable so you can set it how you want. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 The digital ones are good at smoothing out any flat spots in the torque curve if you don't want to alter the performance. Other than increase or decrease the power. I prefer the tuning boxes to chips or remapping as they can be removed in seconds and some are variable so you can set it how you want. Figgy I think that's a tuning box in the link but I know nothing about motors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmfrank Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 i had a remap on my last car it was great but like the gust have said you should declare to your insurance , i used this place http://www.superchips.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyNCC Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Load of garbage those plug in stuff Proper remap is the way to go nd virtually untraceable to insurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Load of garbage those plug in stuff Proper remap is the way to go nd virtually untraceable to insurance I'm not trying to hide anything just wonder if they actually save on fuel consumption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Or look at bluefin,you can install and remove at your leisure and also check error codes,i have it on my st220 good piece of kit. http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/ The cheap boxes like the one you are asking just fool your engine into thinking it is cool and doesn't in the long term save you any fuel or do your engine any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Re-map is the way to go fella.I had the Jeep done for £250 and the performance,power,torque and mpg is dramatically improved.Getting around the 5-6mpg better off and thats not overly making the most of the extra torque which would improve it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 The digital tuning boxes are the same as a remap, just the programme is put in a separate box rather than in the ECU. Both change the fuelling. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyNCC Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I'm not trying to hide anything just wonder if they actually save on fuel consumption The cheap ones are utter rubbish A good remap will give better mph and noticeable power Maybe a more expensive plug and play box will do a little but nothing compared to the real thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 MOst just give false sensor readings to the ECU, increasing hp, etc will often stress engine components more, most UK/EU cars are factory mapped for emissions not economy/performance but when you see the work Ford, Renault, VW put into a ECU (ok designed to perform with many thousands and thousands of units) can a box of interweb really be that much better? a proper remap done on a proper rolling road to your vehicle can improve things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 What car will it be fitted to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 If your car hasn't got a turbo I wouldn't bother unless lots of other mods have been done. Diesel turbos benefit the most. A full Re-map is in my opinion much better than a plug in box, although these have come a long way since I was last interested. Mostly it leans the mixture and flatterns any links and bumps out in the power curve. If done wrong it's a quick way to kill the engine and ecu. If done right you'll normally enjoy more power and economy. Personally I would use a reputable garage that does this work often and can show u a before and after rolling road for the new mapping. They tend to be easily reversable but you must tell your insurer, I know of at least one person who had the mapping checked when his car was written off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) I looked in to turning boxes,chips etc on my discovery td5 and done quite a bit if research in to them but went for a remap which I think was the best option made a big difference more power not sure yet about economy but seems to be better will have to clock it a bit more yet. Edited December 1, 2013 by garygreengrass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I looked in to turning boxes,chips etc on my discovery td5 and done quite a bit if research in to them but went for a remap which I think was the best option made a big difference more power not sure yet about economy but seems to be better will have to clock it a bit more yet. Keep an eye on the temp gauge as the early TD5 were known to overheat when remapped. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I couldn't read this ad fully on the iPhone but from the installation details and price it appears to be a cheap resistor in a nice carbon box "developed for Italian super cars". All these things do are fool your ECU by altering the readings of various sensors (eg MAF) which is dangerous. Looking at the ad overall it looks dodgy; it's too cheap and is based on tacky Italian race car performance, carbon and Ferrari red colours. The performance graph is some generic creation and the pictures relate to a different car. A properly mapped chip or reflash of your ECU is what's needed and will be specific to your car and any other modifications (or requirements) you have. I'd be looking for graphs, photos and feedback relating specifically to my exact car model. The reason you don't see it here is it appears to be a generic box of tricks to fit to most cars, no remapped engine data for the ECU to use as this requires a specific remap for a specific car. This thing looks like a waste of money and you risk worsening some areas of performance or damaging the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Had one on my truck caused all sorts of problems with ecu cost a lot to fix afteri took it off maybee they improved them but don't think I try another one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 The best remaps are for cars in a range where like vag do various power outputs of the same engine. If yours was the 110bhp and you wanted 130bhp your only doing what the manufacturer has already done. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted December 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 What car will it be fitted to ? Vauxhall Vivaro 2.5 CDTI 150 bhp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I looked in to turning boxes,chips etc on my discovery td5 and done quite a bit if research in to them but went for a remap which I think was the best option made a big difference more power not sure yet about economy but seems to be better will have to clock it a bit more yet. I had a Van Aatkin installed on mine. Best money spent, 50lb extra torque and about +20bhp Upped fuel economy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Vauxhall Vivaro 2.5 CDTI 150 bhpDoes it have a DMF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted December 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Sorry but what's a DMF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Dual Mass Flywheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 A remap that ups the power and improves economy ? Surely F1 teams would be interested ? Why wouldn't the original manufacturer map them that way ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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