glb8686 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Feel for you. I can get to sleep ok but i have a tendency to wake up about 3/4am and can't get back to sleep for an hour or 2 then feel like death when its time to get up. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Have a hot bath just before bedtime. Can't remember the exact physiology but as the body cools down after the bath it promotes sleep. Also, this might sound simplistic but it works for me. Generally, when I can't sleep it's because lots of thoughts and replays are running through my mind. The brain cannot think of two things at once so I repeat to myself the simple childhood prayer, 'Now I lay me down to sleep I pray you Lord my soul to keep'. This quitens all my ramblings and the next thing I know it's morning. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 i had to knock off all the booze and caffiene. usually takes about 2 weeks then the sleep pattern returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I struggle with this from time to time. I found myself laying there thinking about work and things to do the next day. I found making a list of everything I needed to do the next day before going to sleep cleared my head. Another thing that helped was not using the iPhone or iPad before bed. Someone told me about the bright screen triggering "wake up" feelings in the brain. Not sure how scientifically correct it is but has helped me. Final tip... I've always found the counting sheep thing to be useless but an alternative I found really works is the car game. Starting at A move through the alphabet naming three makes of car for each letter. Put it this way... I don't recall ever getting past K! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 If you have a smartphone then there are a few really good apps to help you sleep - the best one I have found is called pzizz sleep and I use it when I cannot switch off and get to sleep. It works best with headphones but I use it on my docking station. Well worth trying for a couple of quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Feeder Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Plenty of fresh air during the day, e.g. being out and about and active. I stopped drinking coffee after 6 pm as I was struggling to get to sleep. A good cup of Horlicks helps too, got to be better than relying on drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpoonlouis Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Nytol, diphenhydramine hydrochloride all the same. Buy it on ebay from a US supplier as Costco own brand Allergy Relief tablets, Kirkland Brand I think. Cheap as chips and less calories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren m Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 i use Nytol, i think it works i also read a bit and that helps too , failing that have a , i find that rather relaxing worse thing is waking up in the night for a pee , just can not get back to sleep then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDCREST Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I've had a not sleeping problem since I was a kid..60 odd years later and tried just about everything, except sleeping pills and I still don't sleep..and it doesn't matter how tired I am either.. You might try no tea ,coffee, wine after 6pm,and a crossword puzzle or two 'til your brain gets tired...getting mentally tired out is the key.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybucket Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I struggle with getting my head to stop thinking which can lead me laying in bed for hours, I found counting one on breathing in and two on breathing out over again it doesn't take long to fall asleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 It's not the getting off to sleep that's the problem for me, most nights I don't even feel my head touch the pillow. It's the waking up at 5 in the morning and not being able to get back to sleep that's the killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon-hunter Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I find when I can't sleep it's because I can't shut down, just keeping thinking about to much stuff, I stick music on quiet on my iPhone, and because I'm listening to that I drift off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid rich Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 The one eyed sleeping tablet??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 This may sound odd but make a strong cup of Horlicks and read a book - just get immersed in it , think of nothing else and you'll be asleep before you know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortmagnum999 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I find reading helps, I sometimes wake up at 3/4 am but that's normally because iv gone to bed too early. Relaxing your mind is definitely the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 nytol works well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Feel for you. I can get to sleep ok but i have a tendency to wake up about 3/4am and can't get back to sleep for an hour or 2 then feel like death when its time to get up. :( Ditto me. 3 am on the nose, adrenaline kicks in and you start thinking about the day and so the mind starts running, you finally get back off to sleep at 5 am, sleep like a log for a bit and then when it's time to get up you feel shattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 You dont strictly need any drugs to sleep - you just need peace of mind. If you cant keep that then, stupid as it may sound Yoga /mind relaxation techniques could, as already said, be the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) My problem is I'm thinking about work and the next job. Sometimes even while at it with the gf I think about work which wrecks everything :( I used to sit up until 3am worrying about work and money but then wake up at 5 for work . The worst was after my sister died and then a few mates followed by a few big accidents while racing :( I used to hit the same tree night after night which scared the hell out of me :( 2 years ago this month I was found knocked out in my van upside down . I broke my ribs / shoulder messed up and as this was the 2nd time after the same happened as a passenger with my mate . I used to lie awake all night Edited December 10, 2013 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Hot shower and a jump. Well it works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I also get the frustrating routine of waking at 4am, then getting back to sleep At 5 feeling awful when the alarm goes off at half 6. For me it is in cycles depending in work, my mind seems to just switch on at 4 and start processing everything I'm doing at work. Blooming irritating ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laird Lugton Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 10 days a month I have to get up between 4-5am. I used to clock watch and as I saw the hours go by I would worry more and more. Now I set two alarms and turn the clocks away from me so I can't see the screens. Now I lie there not knowing how long I've been lying there and drift off, accepting whatever sleep I get as enough. If I'm short on night one I accept it and get a better nights sleep on day 2. Also, like a baby, build in a routine so the body gets used to the routine and knows it is going to sleep. Try and do the same thing every night such as reading a book etc... Lastly allow enough time to get a good nights sleep. Can't help with the waking in the night though, I do wake but I don't look at the clocks. Best of luck, it's infuriating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I am the opposite and could sleep on a barb wire fence given half a chance. If on the odd time mainly after coming off nights back to days I carnt drift off strait away, I just close my eyes and focus on the darkness and a black circle with a smaller black circle inside it in the distance, you travel to the second circle, but when you get to it you realise it's the same circle. Never got any further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 And so here I am... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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