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me too chris,,this is not looking too good now 22-4

 

the debutant looks pretty decent but why is he playing for us when he was zimbarbian born ??? sod it let anyone play as long as we can win one but on the performance at the moment its not looking good,

 

5-0 is defo on the cards

 

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another gone ,,,,Bell for 2 England 23 for 5, my god its getting worse

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The odds you would have got on a 5 - 0 drubbing immediately following our last ashes success would have been amazing.

 

Mind you, out there it's all or nothing and with no bad weather you can't even look to a draw really.

 

An interesting look at what heat, travel and a terrible start can do to a team's mental state. I reckon it was all down to a dropped catch....

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Take a couple of year to come back from this, but that's the way the modern game goes. Teams rise, peak, for 3 or 4 series, and fade away again. It wasn't long ago Australia were pretty dire themselves.

 

Captaincy is important, and Cook for all his other talents is not strong enough or experienced enough for me... Partly a product of young cricketers breaking into the national side early, then hardly ever playing County cricket again... Where do they get that wise depth of Captaincy experience from that previous eras had?

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Take a couple of year to come back from this, but that's the way the modern game goes. Teams rise, peak, for 3 or 4 series, and fade away again. It wasn't long ago Australia were pretty dire themselves.

 

Captaincy is important, and Cook for all his other talents is not strong enough or experienced enough for me... Partly a product of young cricketers breaking into the national side early, then hardly ever playing County cricket again... Where do they get that wise depth of Captaincy experience from that previous eras had?

I agree completely. We were all lulled into a false sense of security because we kept winning after Strauss retired, but under the surface, the signs were always there in the field. He's reluctant to attack, he makes odd choices with his bowlers and is too prone to chase the ball. Now we've come up against a good (but not great) side and he looks all out of ideas. He's to reticent to go for the kill.

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Cookie is in mental freefall, he doesnt have the dressing room. Pieterson should do one and go home. Anderson is over bowled, Broad has lost his batting skills. Bell is back to poor form, Stokes is trying but weeing into the wind. BUT without M Johnson the convicts are at best an average side. In so far as they have averaged 141 for 5 in every innings.

that said, we couldnt finish a two piece jigsaw

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well played that man! They've been playing like a few of the players have taken those odds as well...

It was the only value bet on the series...a few decisions could have go the other way in the summer tests and the series would have been so much closer...

 

no preperation,no desire and arrogance to think they would win again...terrible embarrassing performance on the whole...Johnson deserves his man of the series accolade...37wkts with a strike rate of 13 runs...Brad Hadden over 400 runs from number 7,no England batsman made over 300...

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Don't think it has helped Cookies batting that he shoots right handed using eye dominance correction aids rather than shooting left handed. Maybe upset his natural batting rhythm a bit?

 

Bottom line you have to wonder if they should actually get any pay for this tour!

no.

If you consistently underperformed in every area of your work, in any other profession, you'd be sacked. Stokes and Broad can come away with their heads held high, the rest should be fined and the money given to those fans who paid colossal amounts of money to watch them.

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A year ago we were about the best team in the world, thats with most of the same players that just got spanked 5-0.

 

Loosing a key player with depression does not help, but like all good teams suddenly you find you need to rebuild. Used to have to do it frequently in my club cricket days when key players who had been coached since knee high disappear to Uni never to re appear.

 

I dont really keep up with the county scene these day but feel that the large numbers on players from abroad holding key positions in county sides do hold back the development of our own talent.

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, in Sept most of us would have agreed with the squad selection.

 

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