pegasus bridge Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 So it turns out, your chances of getting shot by a nasty policeman if you're a violent drug dealing thug, driving round london with a gun in the car are increased considerably 😏 Remarkable ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFreeman1310 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I thought they was wrong and he had no gun in his possession ? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted January 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Well, they jailed someone for supplying him the gun earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 There are several versions of events, the initial one was that they found the gun In a Box behind a wall and he wasn't holding it, the end version was that he had it in his hand , so what actually happened is any bodies guess really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted January 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Found 20ft away, jury convinced it was thrown from the taxi seconds before apparently http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25657949 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I thought they found it in a sock down the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g fletch Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 no great loss really!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 8/10 of the jury voted that they thought Mark Duggan had no weapon in his hand when he was shot,but they still found it was a lawful killing. no great loss really!!!!!!! They found it 20ft away in a sock. Keep up man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 8/10 of the jury voted that they thought Mark Duggan had no weapon in his hand when he was shot,but they still found it was a lawful killing. A strange verdict to come to when they accept he was not armed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 So, they guy was a crack cocaine dealer who habitually carried an illegal handgun and ended up being shot by a policeman who would know that he was likely to be armed. Forgive me if I don't shed a tear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) To be fair we don't know everything. I doubt any copper will ever get convicted for this sort of thing, right or wrong it makes a mockery of our Law and our justice system. Lets face it if it happened in Afgan and he (the firearms officer) was a soldier the Killer (sorry shooting an unarmed man, not presenting a clear threat that's what they are) would be serving time. This will start a fuss and it will haunt the Met for many years like Waldawf did, still the first copper that gets convicted and we are going to be seriously lacking in armed response personnel- that don't make it Ok though, drug dealer / gangster etc. just like executing Taliban isn't the done thing Edited January 8, 2014 by kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 On the grass over the fence where the taxi stopped. It is alleged that he was involved with a murder in the past and was most certainly a drug dealing low life, and not just the odd bag of weed, a career criminal. Good riddance!! Let's wait for the next lot of gangsta rioting. I thought they found it in a sock down the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Good riddance indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted January 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 The only civilian witness to it, was 9 floors up apparently, but could 'definitely see' he was holding a phone and not a gun. Fantastic eye sight from that range 🙈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Interesting how most people ( especially our good selves who use firearms a lot) have not been shot at by police. No smoke without fire as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Hasn't Boris Johnson being badgering Theresa May to get a water cannon for his birthday? I hope the police don't need one tonight. Edited January 8, 2014 by felly100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 it's about time that elements of London's black community had a long hard look at themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFreeman1310 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 it's about time that elements of London's black community had a long hard look at themselves.I think that could be taken the wrong way not making argument just sayin John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g fletch Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 8/10 of the jury voted that they thought Mark Duggan had no weapon in his hand when he was shot,but they still found it was a lawful killing. They found it 20ft away in a sock. Keep up man! like I say no great loss..man.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 He's dead? Never even knew he was ill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 He was a criminal. He was a waste of oxygen. He's dead. The copper should have got the MBE instead of Camerons bloody hairdresser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 This case stinks almost as bad as the Met's shooting of de Menezes. The "Facts" presented are that two officers at less than 10 yards clearly identified a pistol which was drawn from Duggan's waist band and levelled at them. One officer proceeded to fire one shot. Duggan was not instantly incapacitated and retained the pistol so was shot a second time which proved fatal. The officers immediately approached Duggan to secure the weapon which had now disappeared. It later reappeared 20 feet away, in a sock, the other side of a railing. There is a video recorded from a nearby apartment which appears to show just how miraculous their "find" was. This lawful killing verdict conveniently makes a repeat riot less likely which is one saving grace but it is also a terrible error of impunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 one less crook carrying an illegle firearm on the streets of england seems to me the police are doing a good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Interesting how most people ( especially our good selves who use firearms a lot) have not been shot at by police. No smoke without fire as they say. never say never joke, i doubt this guy will be missed by many Edited January 8, 2014 by overandunder2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Interesting how most people ( especially our good selves who use firearms a lot) have not been shot at by police. No smoke without fire as they say.Well actually they have shot a large amount of complete innocents thinking they were someone else or the object they had was something else and also their own guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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