TaxiDriver Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Our toilet flush has packed up- ceased to function I've disconnected the handle and tried lifting the syphon(?) manually and theres no resistance felt ? Phoned a local plumber and he reckons worst case will be £100 or best case £60 to repair/replace - Seems alot of money to me ? he's been round for a shufty this am and says the close coupled cistern has to come of and will ring me in a bit with a price as he's gone to get a new one (the flushing bit) Hope he bloomin hurries up as I'm building pressure here .............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 You could always go about your business then use a bucket of water to flush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 easy job fit new syphon they are not much hour tops if that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRamsay Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 30 minutes tops, Easy fix, Price sounds a bit high though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-euro-bottom-entry-fill-valve-3-8/87426 If the flush is on the top you will need one of the above, fits on the side you will need the one below. http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-side-entry-fill-valve-euro-3-8/49003 Fitted mine in around 8 mins from starting that included totally emptying the cistern... You don't really even need half a brain to fit it , as I managed ok These are fast fill too it literally takes 15 seconds to totally refill the cistern ok for when them 2 flushes are required maybe after Guinness or maybe a ruby Edited January 17, 2014 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) If it's the old front lever type! It's only the diaphragm thats ********! The plastic will have split! It's FREE to repair these by your self! They screw into place from the underside of the syphon unit. I fixed my sisters using a plastic milk bottle. But your best bet is a wheat sack from a local farm. Takes about 20 - 30 mins. Strip out the syphon unit! Unscrew the diaphragm base from the rod Then remove the torn plastic disk. Cut a new one to size to cover the base, but NOT over hang the edges! Make a small hole dead centre! Pop the disk on the rod! It will stop at the end of the thread as the rod is wider than the thread! Screw on the base! Check the syphon unit base seal AND the cystern base to ensure they are good! Then refit! Job jobbed Edited January 17, 2014 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 too late he's here now. £87 fitted :( could do without that expense. Thanks for the input fellas ;good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I'm pretty rubbish at DIY, but I've managed to fit both a fill valve and a new syphon for different cisterns. No more than a few quid to buy so the quote of £60 to £100 sounds like his time rather than materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) At the end of the day it will have cost him £15.00 to buy if he has replaced the lot he his self employed +fuel getting the part pluss fitting! + wage + call out, I suppose it's quite reasonable if you look at it, I'd have still done it for free though if you where my next door neighbour But make sure he has replaced the full unit and not bodged it with milk bottle tops .....for £16.00 I can't see the point in bodging. Edited January 17, 2014 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Always an easy job if everything comes off easy and goes back easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Always an easy job if everything comes off easy and goes back easy. This That's normally the time I find I don't have a doughnut in the van and back we go to the supplier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleFieldRelics Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Make sure he fitted a turbo syphon or similar. Then next time the toilet does not have to be taken apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Always an easy job if everything comes off easy and goes back easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Make sure he fitted a turbo syphon or similar. Then next time the toilet does not have to be taken apart. Perhaps a little late after the event, but for a few quid extra these really are a good idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 too late he's here now. £87 fitted :( could do without that expense. Thanks for the input fellas ;good: £87 all in apparently, I'm note defending the plumber because I do not know all the details, but that is 2 visits to the house apparently and a trip for parts, his time and fuel and experience etc. I wouldn't be happy having to find £87 just the same, but in the great scheme of things not too bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) This That's normally the time I find I don't have a doughnut in the van and back we go to the supplier... We keep a selection round the gear stick on the van so we no when we are low. ;-) Edited January 17, 2014 by kingo15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) My plumber came last year, swapped an electric shower I supplied, and sorted the outside tap, total cost £12. you southerners know how to charge. oh and he changed the immersion heater,too. Edited January 17, 2014 by bobt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) My plumber came last year, swapped an electric shower I supplied, and sorted the outside tap, total cost £12. you southerners know how to charge. oh and he changed the immersion heater,too. Bargain Edited January 17, 2014 by kingo15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 My cistern started leaking a few months ago we could not get the big plastic nut off as it was a bit restricted for space I got a friend who is a plumber to come and have a look he decided that the only way out was to unscrew the cistern from the wall that was ok but as it had been sealed with silicone when he pulled it the tiles came of the wall in the end it needed four new tiles cut and fixed on then drilled and the cistern screwed back on pipes reconnected and all for a new 2" rubber washer cost me £20 in the end so not to bad but then I did now the guy who did it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 If it's the old front lever type! It's only the diaphragm thats ********! The plastic will have split! It's FREE to repair these by your self! They screw into place from the underside of the syphon unit. I fixed my sisters using a plastic milk bottle. But your best bet is a wheat sack from a local farm. Takes about 20 - 30 mins. Strip out the syphon unit! Unscrew the diaphragm base from the rod Then remove the torn plastic disk. Cut a new one to size to cover the base, but NOT over hang the edges! Make a small hole dead centre! Pop the disk on the rod! It will stop at the end of the thread as the rod is wider than the thread! Screw on the base! Check the syphon unit base seal AND the cystern base to ensure they are good! Then refit! Job jobbed If it's the old front lever type! It's only the diaphragm thats ********! The plastic will have split! It's FREE to repair these by your self! They screw into place from the underside of the syphon unit. I fixed my sisters using a plastic milk bottle. But your best bet is a wheat sack from a local farm. Takes about 20 - 30 mins. Strip out the syphon unit! Unscrew the diaphragm base from the rod Then remove the torn plastic disk. Cut a new one to size to cover the base, but NOT over hang the edges! Make a small hole dead centre! Pop the disk on the rod! It will stop at the end of the thread as the rod is wider than the thread! Screw on the base! Check the syphon unit base seal AND the cystern base to ensure they are good! Then refit! Job jobbed i know it is too late now, i had the same problem here a while ago....we have an ole' fashiond hardware shop here and they sell the syphon diapharams at 50p each there are about 10 different shapes you can buy...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Can't believe a member of PW has forked out £85 to fit a toilet cistern. You should be ashamed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Can't believe a member of PW has forked out £85 to fit a toilet cistern. You should be ashamed. Wasnt a full cistern just a siphon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Can't believe a member of PW has forked out £85 to fit a toilet cistern. You should be ashamed. You could say .................Im flushed with success (although no longer as flush as I was) At the end of the day, The guy came within 12hrs of me calling, came and checked what was needed, went and got required parts, came back and carried out the work in an expert and clean manner and was done right, first time. As with another topic on Specialist garages, I've no doubt paid for the guys knowledge and expertise rather than parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wasnt a full cistern just a siphon Oh! No that's worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) "As with another topic on specialist garages" --TaxiDriver-if you cannot see the difference between a switch and a syphon then you're not having a poo round my house. Edited January 17, 2014 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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