storsey Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 afternoon chaps.... I have recently acquired a 686 special and used it for some clays this week ..very happy with the gun choice....I used 28g ..7.5 cartridges and was happy with them but I was thinking of trying 24g next week ...in your experience would I see a massive difference with clays hit with 24g compared to 28g as the gun is light and id like less recoil if I could get away with it . cheers and have good weekends lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 i think the best question i can pose for you is.... what quality of shell are you wanting to shoot?? economy, club shells decent club / semi professional shells premium / Olympic shells "other" my favourite shell at the moment is a 24g #9 for RC2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Go one better and try the hull 21g..even I can hit stuff with them. I have used the 24g intercomp and found them as good as the 28g but less recoil but are they better then the cheaper 21g..not sure,they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storsey Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 i think the best question i can pose for you is.... what quality of shell are you wanting to shoot?? economy, club shells decent club / semi professional shells premium / Olympic shells "other" my favourite shell at the moment is a 24g #9 for RC2 to be honest I would spend upto £55 per 250 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Intercomp cost me £45 for 250 Could have got compx 28 for £40,but fancied giving the lighter loads a go. The dealer admitted he doesn't sell many as most were buying 28g superfast etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mda998 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 24g victory compak i found kick more than rc1 28 g, my shoulder is knackered so i'm now looking for something softer or go back to an auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 21g hull comp X... Cheap, sold most places and even before I had my gun fitted were about the only cartridges that didn't batter me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Mda If your any time over Doncaster way you can gladly try a few 24g intercomp. Take a box away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mda998 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Mda If your any time over Doncaster way you can gladly try a few 24g intercomp. Take a box away very kind of you but i don't think i'll be up that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Fewer pellets is fewer pellets, no way around that I'm afraid but it doesn't automatically mean your scores will suffer because there are other factors such as fatigue. Strangely though, some 24g loads seem to recoil more than some 28s. I'm not especially recoil sensitive so the only advantage to me with 24s or 21s would be small saving in cost so for now I stick with 28g. You might want to try Power Blue from Express it's the softest 28g I've tried. Pretty good at destroying clays and certainly as good as Eley Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_gsxr1000 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I prefer 28 grams I use both ends of the scale English sporters and black gold f2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 24g victory compak i found kick more than rc1 28 g, my shoulder is knackered so i'm now looking for something softer or go back to an auto Get yourself one of these -- http://www.recoilsystems.com/greenpad/green.asp My lightly built teenage lad got one last summer and it seems to transform/remove/do something magic to recoil. I am genuinely amazed at how it has reduced his exposure to recoil. He's like a stick insect and can now shoot velocity 28s or Superfasts at 27g with almost no reaction to recoil. I've no connection to the company but this has been an outstanding buy. And the guy who owns/runs it is really helpful. Think he was a successful shooter in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 i think it doesnt matter to a point. they break clay etc.... now i go for the RC2 24g #9 and they are alittle snappy. they dont pound the shoulder, but you really notice them. the intercomps were my favourite club shell. i just couldnt get hold of them. pro ones same again, couldnt get hold of them. then i tried some RC2s and loved them. really loved them. some shells are silly money, but there are others that are extremely good value.... compare english sporuter to rc2 competition shells. is like chalk and cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 As the old saying goes, it's down to you to put the shot in the right place, I was at grimsthorpe yesterday and on one particular stand there is a long crosser. One guy I was with who is a good shot got 1 x 4 using gamebore white gold 28 7.5's and I got 3 x4 using eley firsts 24 7.5's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 21g hull comp X... Cheap, sold most places and even before I had my gun fitted were about the only cartridges that didn't batter me +1 The better half has just started shooting, went out first time today with what will be her gun when her ticket comes through, a winchester select light with kickeez pad. She was using these...no problems from recoil. I usually use the hull compex 28's and tried the 21's nice carts through a browning B725 hunter, and made little difference to my generally dismal scores.....but there was a fair bit less recoil...not that even the 28's kick hard in the B725, but there was a noticeable difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_gsxr1000 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I prefer 28 grams I use both ends of the scale English sporters and black gold f2 In my opinion I don't break any more clays with f2's than with English sporters, just like a change, English sporters don't seem to get a good name but for me there's nothing wrong with them, I can break as many clays with them as any other make ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mda998 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Get yourself one of these -- http://www.recoilsystems.com/greenpad/green.asp My lightly built teenage lad got one last summer and it seems to transform/remove/do something magic to recoil. I am genuinely amazed at how it has reduced his exposure to recoil. He's like a stick insect and can now shoot velocity 28s or Superfasts at 27g with almost no reaction to recoil. I've no connection to the company but this has been an outstanding buy. And the guy who owns/runs it is really helpful. Think he was a successful shooter in the past. i have a green pad and the isis recoil reducer fitted to the gun already but still hurts. Maybe time for an op and keep what i've got, dont know what to do at the mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 i have a green pad and the isis recoil reducer fitted to the gun already but still hurts. Maybe time for an op and keep what i've got, dont know what to do at the mo Sorry to hear that you still have pain. You're prob right in seeing medical advice. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mda998 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Sorry to hear that you still have pain. You're prob right in seeing medical advice. Good luck. 12 years of kick boxing in my youth has resulted in a hip replacement 3 years ago, now fragments of bone and arthritis in my shoulder (if only i new i was going to start fall apart by the age of 44 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayslayer Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Cannot beat eley 21 gm, real fast but best advice is try them out you may be surprised , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 afternoon chaps.... I have recently acquired a 686 special and used it for some clays this week ..very happy with the gun choice....I used 28g ..7.5 cartridges and was happy with them but I was thinking of trying 24g next week ...in your experience would I see a massive difference with clays hit with 24g compared to 28g as the gun is light and id like less recoil if I could get away with it . cheers and have good weekends lads If you can't hit it with a 21g cartridge you're not accurate enough! Hull CompX for me, because they feel the same in fibre or plastic and in 7.5 or 9. I didn't like the Fiocchi 21g cheap cartridge but the Eley were fine as well. £145 a thousand. I consider it's teaching me not to be sloppy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Get yourself one of these -- http://www.recoilsystems.com/greenpad/green.asp My lightly built teenage lad got one last summer and it seems to transform/remove/do something magic to recoil. I am genuinely amazed at how it has reduced his exposure to recoil. He's like a stick insect and can now shoot velocity 28s or Superfasts at 27g with almost no reaction to recoil. I've no connection to the company but this has been an outstanding buy. And the guy who owns/runs it is really helpful. Think he was a successful shooter in the past. His name is Dave Izzard, you will not find a more helpful retailer AND yes, he was (and probably still is ) a very good shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Talk to BlaserF3 on here he uses 24g cartridges and he has tried a lot of what is on the market to find one that doesn't thump too hard i am surprised not to see his name on this thread so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 All right, I have shot only 24gm for years. For a soft shooting fibre load I use 24gm Express High Velocity. When you are allowed to shoot plaswads I use RC 2 cartridges, Fiocchi Top One are soft in recoil too. Can you not make your gun a bit heavier by putting some lead in the butt as most Berettas tend to be muzzle heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mda998 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 going to Barrow tomorrow with some express blue power 28g to see what they're like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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