owo1-man Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hi all, Am in the process of decorating and after removing the wallpaper the finish under it is a tad lumpy, someone had painted it and then applied the wallpaper at a later date, and removing the paper has removed portions of paint. The boss wants it painted, so whats the best way of getting the wall into good order other than a complete replaster, taking into account I'm doing 2 x lounge, hallway + stairway. Someone mentioned Jointing Compound, do you roller it on or has it got to be applied by skreed. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owo1-man Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hi all, Am in the process of decorating and after removing the wallpaper the finish under it is a tad lumpy, someone had painted it and then applied the wallpaper at a later date, and removing the paper has removed portions of paint. The boss wants it painted, so whats the best way of getting the wall into good order other than a complete replaster, taking into account I'm doing 2 x lounge, hallway + stairway. Someone mentioned Jointing Compound, do you roller it on or has it got to be applied by skreed. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farcombehall Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hi ya the only way without plastering it is to use lining paper, you then can paint over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owo1-man Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Do not want lining paper, have just removed 4 bags of it from the hall etc, need to flatten the walls for One Coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I would get some Easi-fill. Powdered bag of 5kg, mix up with water until it's a bit like soft ice cream. Apply to patches which need smoothing into wall. Very very easy to sand so you don't need to be perfect plasterer and much better than the paint on options. (Use 120 sandpaper) This is quite quick and easy to use but it does depend exactly how much needs doing! Link here - http://www.duluxdecoratorcentre.co.uk/servlet/ProductHandler?code=DDC300127 My other tips would be - if wall crumbly/dusty then consider a stainblock or similar to seal - do not buy the rapid set Easi fill, check work time is 70 mins on bag - you need very very little water with this so be very careful if adding mixture to water and not water to mix - when sanding wear a mask/goggles and seal doors, very fine and goes everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Fine surface filler and a orbital sander is probably the only way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hi all, Am in the process of decorating and after removing the wallpaper the finish under it is a tad lumpy, someone had painted it and then applied the wallpaper at a later date, and removing the paper has removed portions of paint. The boss wants it painted, so whats the best way of getting the wall into good order other than a complete replaster, taking into account I'm doing 2 x lounge, hallway + stairway. Someone mentioned Jointing Compound, do you roller it on or has it got to be applied by skreed. Many thanks. If you try and fill sections with jointing plaster you will be there forever, and probably still find a poor finish at the end of the day, applying lining paper is an art and is a finish I absolutely hate. I am currently in the same position as you and doing my best to remove loose/flaky wall paint in preparation for a lot of skimming work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 As said easi fill is your best option it sands down nice and quick. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Life is to short to fill and sand,, coat with "thistlebond" and get someone to skim over only way to get the finish your after........ Edited February 6, 2014 by millrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Depends what the original paint under the paper is and if you can prevent the loose edges from lifting when you apply fresh paint on top. If you're just filling to the depth of a coat of paint it wont be a problem if the existing paint is waterbased, but there again subsequent sanding may lift loose paint at the edges again and then you're back to square one. Personally I would key it and then apply a thin coat of uni-bond before either skimming it with thistle bond or one coat or apply a heavyweight lining paper prior to painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 sand it pva it caulk it simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 sand it pva it caulk it simples Out of interest how would you caulk it? Or was this tongue in cheek? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Lining paper would be cheapest but I think that you may as well get the job done properly-if you clean the walls off and sand them as best you can then get a plasterer to skim them over-pay cash and ask around for recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Out of interest how would you caulk it? Or was this tongue in cheek? Decorators caulk. It's fine for small cracks and holes but not really any good for patches of missing paint much bigger than the width of a 50p coin. Polycel make a filler for just what you are describing, but if not applied evenly it's still to sand, which again runs the risk of more peeling paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Decorators caulk. It's fine for small cracks and holes but not really any good for patches of missing paint much bigger than the width of a 50p coin. Polycel make a filler for just what you are describing, but if not applied evenly it's still to sand, which again runs the risk of more peeling paint. i mean proper caulk that you mix in a bucket not the stuff that comes in a silicon type tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Decorators caulk. It's fine for small cracks and holes but not really any good for patches of missing paint much bigger than the width of a 50p coin. Polycel make a filler for just what you are describing, but if not applied evenly it's still to sand, which again runs the risk of more peeling paint. Yes appreciate that - not my suggestion though i mean proper caulk that you mix in a bucket not the stuff that comes in a silicon type tube Ok that makes more sense - not something I've ever used if honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomp875 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thistle bond it then re-skim it job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 i mean proper caulk that you mix in a bucket not the stuff that comes in a silicon type tube Ah, I see. Fair enough. Can't say I've ever used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Get it over skimmed. Job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2202 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Paint comes of with a steamer and sharp scraper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owo1-man Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Thank's for all the advice, decided on the seal and skim, time saved and job done without all of the rubbing down and dust. The knowledge available on this forum is amazing in such a short space of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 i mean proper caulk that you mix in a bucket not the stuff that comes in a silicon type tube Ah, I see. Fair enough. Can't say I've ever used it. Can't say I've ever seen it, time for a look about I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltsmark Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 The only "caulk" I can think of is Artex mixed in a bucket, then Caulk over the tapes?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Croc Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I would get some Easi-fill. Powdered bag of 5kg, mix up with water until it's a bit like soft ice cream. Apply to patches which need smoothing into wall. Very very easy to sand so you don't need to be perfect plasterer and much better than the paint on options. (Use 120 sandpaper) This is quite quick and easy to use but it does depend exactly how much needs doing! Link here - http://www.duluxdecoratorcentre.co.uk/servlet/ProductHandler?code=DDC300127 My other tips would be - if wall crumbly/dusty then consider a stainblock or similar to seal - do not buy the rapid set Easi fill, check work time is 70 mins on bag - you need very very little water with this so be very careful if adding mixture to water and not water to mix - when sanding wear a mask/goggles and seal doors, very fine and goes everywhere 2nd this, and the Joint compound owo1-man is talking about, it's called "putty coating" mix a "Lite" cement so it is like yoghurt, in a roller bucket, roller it on the wall in areas no bigger than a metre square, then trowel it back off, when dry, lightly sand Youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IBUniNenAU#t=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owo1-man Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Job now done, plastered on Sat morning and now drying out and it's looking the dog's, more going on next week, must admit that I would not do it any other way now as the finish is far better than I could have gotten. Many thank's to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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