inderraj Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hey guys, Been looking at buying a Pump for a while now, had a look at all different models and managed to narrow it down to these two shotguns. Just wanted to know everyone's opinions and experiences with these 2 Shotguns, which would be a better buy. Gun will be used for a bit of fun really. Money is not an issue. Indy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 If money is not an issue then it has to be the 870. I like my mossberg but everything about it is built down to a price wherever it can be. The 870 is a bit more expensive for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 What about a Mossberg 590 ? It's a very solid, reliable shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inderraj Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 If money is not an issue then it has to be the 870. I like my mossberg but everything about it is built down to a price wherever it can be. The 870 is a bit more expensive for a reason. Yeah that's fair, The mossberg just seems to be more tried and tested from what i've read. What about a Mossberg 590 ? It's a very solid, reliable shotgun. I was looking at that too, that could be added into the list, its the military version isnt it? Indy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxus77 Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 review of 590 v 870 here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Remington 870 Wingmaster , tha name says it all. The daddy of all pumps , easy to clean , dismantle and shoots any type of cartridge through it. What more can one say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I had an 870 Wingmaster and now a Mossberg 600AT (as far as I know, a 500 by another name) They're both around the same age, I think (70s or 80s) and I must admit that the Mossberg seems to have a smoother cycling action. Perhaps my old 870 needed tinkering with, I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 there is a good one on u-tube comparing the two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Remington 870 Wingmaster , tha name says it all. The daddy of all pumps , easy to clean , dismantle and shoots any type of cartridge through it. What more can one say Whoa there - don't discount the Ithaca 37! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I've owned both, they are both great guns, but the Remington is the better in my opinion. As has been said, the Mossberg does the job, but feels a bit cheap, whereas a Wingmaster feels really good. I don't know about the cycling thing, for my money a WM is much MUCH smoother than a 500. I would never sell my Wingmaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inderraj Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Still seems quite open, I might just try and find someone who has both and try each of them out, see which one fits me best. Il probably end up buying both over time. There both very tried and tested, even though i'm leaning slightly more towards the Mossberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Shooter Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Rem 870, very good gun from what I've seen/herd although I've never shot one. Mossy 500/600/Maverick 88 ((all the same gun apart from the Maverick 88 which has the safety on the trigger mech and not on the tang as with all the other Mossies) 600 was a 500 branded as a Newhaven 600 for a US department store) very good guns only limited on mag capacity (no way of extending them) either 2 + 1, 5 + 1 or 7 + 1 all barrels are interchangeable between these models as long as the mag capacity and gauge match (barrels can be multi choked, cylinder bore or vari-choked). Mossy 590/590A1 Military spec 500 with thicker barrel walls, steel trigger guard and no choke, barrels are interchangeable with the 835 but not 500, mags can be extended. Mossy 835 3.5 inch chambered back bored barrels with multi chokes same configuration as 500 but barrels will not interchange, mags can be extended. Mossy 535 3.5 inch chambered 500 with standard size bore not sure whether or not the barrels will fit anything else. Hope this gives you a better idea, all the above guns are good hope you find what you are after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 i had a mossy,and a 870, to me the 870 was the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACTICAL SNIPER Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Out of the 2 guns above I own a mossy 500 Hushpower and personally I think it is the best gun going! I can bolt all sort of torches, pistol grips and different stocks onto it. When it gets dirty wash it in a river and it will fire and cycle any cartridge on the market. in fact it is so good for lamping with a kree led torch bolted on it, it almost takes the skill out of shooting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiltshirekeeper Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 mossberg is easier/quicker to reload when pigeon shooting, my choice would be the wing master... well made and would last a life time have you looked at winchester sxp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00se Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Before you buy, which 870 is it? WIngmaster? Then yes, get 870. I ask because I bought a brand new Express Supermag and I have had some problems with low-brass cartridges sticking in the breech (and therefore causing extraction failure). It's my understanding the 500 doesn't have this problem. I was in the same situation as you and opted for the 870, and kind of wish I'd gotten the 500 now, with the double extractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoi99 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 I can't imagine anyone being cheesed off with themselves for deciding to go with the Wingmaster. I am over the moon with mine mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Had my 870 for 30years, it goes when I go and not before, must have put 100.000 thru it and its still working as it should. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 My choice would be the 500, I love it and would swap it it for a Remmington at all ! Each to there own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Have had both, and both are very good guns in my opinion, but if I had to choose, it would be the 870. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 870 every time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Whoa there - don't discount the Ithaca 37! The ORIGINAL SLIDE GUN! Got one in the cabinet next to my 870 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I ask because I bought a brand new Express Supermag and I have had some problems with low-brass cartridges sticking in the breech (and therefore causing extraction failure). I lurk on the American forums quite a bit and the Lore is that 870 Express chambers are poorly finished. A common recommendation is for new owners to polish - or even *hone* - the chambers of their new guns... I seem to remember one poster stating that he discovered a ridge just *outside* of the chamber (on the barrel extension) that he Dremelled off. He claimed that this cured the problem on *his* gun. Regards, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00se Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I lurk on the American forums quite a bit and the Lore is that 870 Express chambers are poorly finished. A common recommendation is for new owners to polish - or even *hone* - the chambers of their new guns... I seem to remember one poster stating that he discovered a ridge just *outside* of the chamber (on the barrel extension) that he Dremelled off. He claimed that this cured the problem on *his* gun. Regards, Mark. Yep, this is exactly the problem. However, confusion happens because there are two distinct problems, both with the same (or similar) solution: The test is, to place a cartridge in the breech/chamber, and then tilt the barrel up. If the cartridge sticks, then there is a ridge there that needs grinding down (if the gun is new, send it back at this point). If the cartridge slides out with ease, but you still experience stuck cartridges after they've been fired, it's a polishing issue. From what I've gathered, the barrels ship with some parkerization or something inside the barrel, which causes the spent cartridge to stick. Solution for me was to get a barrel brush and wrap it in some steel wool, hook it up to a dowel and insert into a power drill. Run that in the chamber for a few minutes and then clean it up. Keep doing this after shooting the next couple times, and eventually the jams stop. Last time I shot with low-brass (cheap CompX carts) I only had one stick out of 50, down from one every 5/6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Yep, this is exactly the problem.Coincidentally, someone has just resurrected one of the threads about this topic: http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=255157 Regards, Mark. Edited March 18, 2014 by ChAoS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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