hoggysreels Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Anyone have an opinon to share regards ... 2.5" Eley 12.5g vs Lyalvale 2.5" 14g cartridges ... l bought a couple of boxes of 14g Lyalvale from "Countrywise" Ludlow .. wish l lived closer to a Countrywise outlet, l was very impressed with it .. atb hoggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Lyalvale are pretty good, best I've used are Winchester super x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Lyalvale are pretty good, best I've used are Winchester super x At £649 per 1,000, the Winchesters should be..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 ......loaded with platinum shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Another one for the lyalvale, perfect rabbit cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted August 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Another one for the lyalvale, perfect rabbit cartridge. Have you used the eley 12.5g cartridges, as a comparison ? .. lm curious to know if there is a noticeable difference .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 THe only thing I've noticed with the Eley (esepcially in a shot size 6) is that the pattern can be great, and then utterly fail 5 yards later. I've seen a shot spatter all round a rabbit at 25 yards, and it bounce off in perfect health, whereas at 20 yards, it's invariably fatal. I appreciate that's as much to do with the gun as the cartridge, but it does seem that the Eley have that little bit less than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) Have you used the eley 12.5g cartridges, as a comparison ? .. lm curious to know if there is a noticeable difference ..Edit : Im talking complete rubbish sorry, its the Eley Fourlong that Ive always used and have found them great. Its been a long day Edited August 5, 2014 by hedd-wyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hi Found the eley ones quieter in my moderated gun if that's any help Use fioccie most of the Time only because that's what they stock locally All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Hi Found the eley ones quieter in my moderated gun if that's any help Use fioccie most of the Time only because that's what they stock locally All the best Of What were you using on our day out OF? They seemed very good at the long range clay, with you behind them of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 What were you using on our day out OF? They seemed very good at the long range clay, with you behind them of course Yes mate They worked for you as I recall when you were on target 😗😗 All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Just got a 410 S/S by side Falco. I bought a box of Cheddite 24g low noise 3" for clay with the gun and tried on clays and couldn't get on with them, but that could be me. Bought some Victory 410 14g No 6 as that was what Doveridge had in stock and started smashing clays with them, so quite pleased with these. Anyone else tried these on clay or in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) Just got a 410 S/S by side Falco. I bought a box of Cheddite 24g low noise 3" for clay with the gun and tried on clays and couldn't get on with them, but that could be me. Bought some Victory 410 14g No 6 as that was what Doveridge had in stock and started smashing clays with them, so quite pleased with these. Anyone else tried these on clay or in the field. That's a new one on me 24 gram .410 didn't think it would fit in the case? 21 gram Winchester used to be available, but the biggest I have seen now is 19 gram eley Deershooter Edited September 13, 2014 by deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I don't know if these are some Malmo have made specially as they are not on Cheddite's Italian website or on Malmo's price list sheet. The cartridge I have in my sticky mitt says Cheddite Drago 410 24g 73mm 71/2 on it and has a cork wad and clear plastic case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I don't know if these are some Malmo have made specially as they are not on Cheddite's Italian website or on Malmo's price list sheet. The cartridge I have in my sticky mitt says Cheddite Drago 410 24g 73mm 71/2 on it and has a cork wad and clear plastic case. Easy way to find out, weigh the shot. If you don't have scales, two £1 coins weigh 23 grams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Drago is the name of the powder which I think is about equivalent to A1 which I would think is to fast a powder to push 24gm in a .410 loads above 14gm in .410 normally use a slow rifle powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I bake cakes and bread of course I have scales. Could even do milligrams to 3 decimal places if I drag the old chemical balance out I scrounged when they were having a chuck out at work. OH has designs on it for making his own cart's. The box and cartridge both say 24g, so no reason to doubt the weight. The whole cartridge weight is 30g. No intention of chopping up the cart' though just to weigh shot will take the manufacturers word for it. Anyone used these Victory 410 14g No 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Have you used the eley 12.5g cartridges, as a comparison ? .. lm curious to know if there is a noticeable difference .. I've used both and settled on the lyalvale - they are definitely faster and add a few yards to your range. The eley fourlong are weak even by 410 standards but are the absolute quietest when moderated (suspect they are subsonic). If it's important to you, the eley use a waxed cork wad, lyalvale use plastic. In the absence of my 12gauge, lyalvale 16gram is my workhorse cartridge though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Lyalvale now produce fibre .410 shells as of early August. I looked on various sites, but cannot find a stockist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Me neither. Only 410 mentioned on Lyavale own website had plastic wads. But then Cheddite didn't mention the cork wads on these 24g carts I have got. Found a supplier in Stafford for Lyavale that's not too far from us, so might have a mosy over there when they appear on the lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 the fiocchi 19g size 7 3inch are a fab cartridge rabbits are easy bowled over at 25-30 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Google 'Lyavale Supreme .410 fibre cartridges.' Several tweets come up from shooting celebs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 "Supreme Fibre 410 is now available in 2 1/2" 14g and 3" 16g version". Found it on Lyavale Twitter page, but can't find it on their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 those 24g .410 loads are subsonics, and boy oh boy are they slooooow....positively pedestrian shooting 25-30 yd clays its 1/2 mile lead and bang...... 1.....2......3 ...smash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Lyalvale now produce fibre .410 shells as of early August. I looked on various sites, but cannot find a stockist. Now that's interesting! About time another factory gave eley a bit of competition in that niche, perhaps we'll see a .410 price war between them. A man can only dream... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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