KFC Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 As an ex-smoker I find getting a faceful of someone else's smoke really annoying, even if it is from an e-cigarette. If I wanted to smoke then I would but I don't so I don't see why I should have to put up with other peoples fumes. I was at an outdoor concert a while ago and there was a family of five sat in front of me all puffing great clouds of smoke. They were swapping pipes and sending out so much smoke that I had to move because I couldn't stand the smell and it created such a smoke-screen that I could hardly see the stage. I say make e-smoking subject to the same rules as Tobacco. What is the opinion of the PW massive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I know its a bit grey as to wether there are the same impacts of passive smoking evaps but its still rude especially if you cant stand the odour. Saw on the news that some places have outright banned them as cant tell who is e smoking and tobacco smoking. A very pc approach to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 As an ex-smoker I find getting a faceful of someone else's smoke really annoying, even if it is from an e-cigarette. If I wanted to smoke then I would but I don't so I don't see why I should have to put up with other peoples fumes. I was at an outdoor concert a while ago and there was a family of five sat in front of me all puffing great clouds of smoke. They were swapping pipes and sending out so much smoke that I had to move because I couldn't stand the smell and it created such a smoke-screen that I could hardly see the stage. I say make e-smoking subject to the same rules as Tobacco. What is the opinion of the PW massive? Nothing worse than an ex-smoker. Ban everything because you don't like it. I don't like having to breath in car fumes which are a bigger issue than burning some dried leaves but I don't try and ban it. You were in an outdoor concert, so move. People don't like shooting and they want it banned, how are you any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Shooting doesn't give you cancer, only lead poisoning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Shooting doesn't give you cancer, only lead poisoning Genetics will more likely give you cancer. You think that second hand smoke outdoors is going to affect you? You better not barbeque, have a bonfire or drive a car then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Never been a smoker, but I object to smoke in my face from either a real cigarette or an e-smoke device. I read somewhere about the harmful effects of e-smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 its still smoking, if it was a tool to stop smoking then perhaps but its not is it? its another seemingly more fashionable way to smoke and used to break the rules such as smoking in public places or buildings so my view treat it the same as a cancer stick. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Being outdoors is no reason to do it. Be at a bus stop with a smoker, its ok I will leave and you carry on. Don't worry about considering anyone else, it's ok your hobby is more important and thank you for being part of a considerate society. I don't smoke, never have. If someone does I ask them to move on from wherever I am especially if my daughter is with me. Consideration costs nothing but normally means giving a toss about . other than yourself and how your actions affect others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 It can't be smoking because it ain't smoke, it's vapour. The vapour doesn't smell of cigarette smoke, nor does it linger on clothing. People often comment how nice my apple, blackberry and bubble gum mix smells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 No it is not smoking, what you breath in is water vapour with nicotine in it. all an ecig delivers is steam and a measured amount of nicotine. it does not burn anything so there is no smoke. having said that yes i can understand why people do not wish to breath this vapour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I've got a smoke machine, its vapor but don't think it would sell as well marketed as a vaporising machine. What is left in the exhaled vapour? I have no idea. Is it pleasant being fogged out by vapour? Not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 It can't be smoking because it ain't smoke, it's vapour. The vapour doesn't smell of cigarette smoke, nor does it linger on clothing. People often comment how nice my apple, blackberry and bubble gum mix smells. Vapour with nicotine and who knows what else. Quite frankly, I can't see how smoking anything can still be legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Being outdoors is no reason to do it. Be at a bus stop with a smoker, its ok I will leave and you carry on. Don't worry about considering anyone else, it's ok your hobby is more important and thank you for being part of a considerate society. I don't smoke, never have. If someone does I ask them to move on from wherever I am especially if my daughter is with me. Consideration costs nothing but normally means giving a toss about . other than yourself and how your actions affect others Did you ever think what the exhaust from the bus will do to your daughter? So burning fossil fuels is fine but burning a few dried leaves is going to massively affect other people? Don't get your thought process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I just don't like the idea that everything should be legislated against because it offends the sensitivities of a few. Where do you draw the line? I also recognise that i am being a hypocrite in this because i welcomed the ban on smoking indoors, having never smoked i always found the lingering smell from other smokers on my clothes obnoxious, but how far do you go? Indoors I think they should be subjected to the same controls as regular smoking, outdoors much less so. If it is a crowded area like a football terrace or music event where folk are cheek by jowl then fair enough, but should that include parks or the beach or walking down the road? I think that we do have to be tolerant and considerate of others, but that has to go both ways. Personally I would rather ban short people from using umbrellas before anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Now that's a truck question because the title and the vote are the opposite question . So discount my vote because I voted to allow it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I guess its acceptance of risk, I accept the carcinogens from bbq,cars and alike but not smoking or vaps in a public space enclosed or otherwise. I like knocking one out but wait til I get home, smokers could try the same?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) furthermore is smoking or vappibg a necessity? Edited September 8, 2014 by onatangent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I guess its acceptance of risk, I accept the carcinogens from bbq,cars and alike but not smoking or vaps in a public space enclosed or otherwise. I like knocking one out but wait til I get home, smokers could try the same?? Can't see how "knocking" one out and having a cigarette can be compared..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I guess its acceptance of risk, I accept the carcinogens from bbq,cars and alike but not smoking or vaps in a public space enclosed or otherwise. I like knocking one out but wait til I get home, smokers could try the same?? Odd that you accept things far worse than smoking, is that because they benefit you and just you don't like smoking you are predudice? As for what you do in your spare time it's upto you and I wouldn't want to ban you from what you enjoy doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 social acceptance of doing something that an individual decides to persur as a hobby or entertainment. So my example is an extreme swing but never the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 As its nicotine it should be treated the same as smoking. I packed in smoking, why should I breath in the drug I managed to give up. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 If I played the trumpet, albeit badly and followed you around I am sure it would be annoying, no matter how much fun I was having...at your expense. As said, consideration and impact on others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 You always get the odd person who believe's if they don't do it, no one else has the right to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Odd that you accept things far worse than smoking, is that because they benefit you and just you don't like smoking you are predudice? As for what you do in your spare time it's upto you and I wouldn't want to ban you from what you enjoy doing. I should be banned, lost my eyesight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 If I played the trumpet, albeit badly and followed you around I am sure it would be annoying, no matter how much fun I was having...at your expense. As said, consideration and impact on others. Once again your example does not really compare to smoking does it? Noise vs smell? Not really comparable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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