00jacksonp Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Hi guys. Any advice or ideas appreciated. I have been looking for a 12G Beretta for around the £600 mark . I appreciate this is the very lowest bracket for a second hand beretta but have found a few but unfortunatly they have all been a bit too short. I am now thinking of alternatives . I really like the solid feel to a beretta and have seen some nice scroll work on rizzinis. This gun will be for game / wildfowling. Any suggestion would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 The one's that you've found have been cheap because they have been shortened for a youth or lady shooter. Berettas are worth waiting for, save for a little longer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Have you looked at a Browning 525, good reliable gun and usually slightly longer in the stock than a Beretta. This is not meant to kick off the Browning/Beretta argument. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00jacksonp Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Thanks guys. Ill have a look at the browning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I did a similar exercise about a year ago. I love my beretta 20 ga, and I wanted a matching or similar 12, but since i shoot the 20 for most everything couldn't justify spending too much. So I kept my eyes open for a 12 in the price range you're suggesting and they don't really come up. Every now and then you see a S56 model in the 750-900 bracket, but that was about the best. I ended up buying a bettinsoli for £400 or so here on PW. I kinda wish I had waited a little longer and put some more cash into it. The bettinsoli is a nice gun and perfectly functional for what I need. But it doesn't feel the same as my beretta and I don't shoot it as well. I might get it bent to my dimensions, but it still won't be the same. If you're set on a beretta, try to wait a little little longer, set a little more cash aside, and keep your eyes open. Worst case if you find one cheap with a short stock, you can get it extended at first and then replace the stock later to one better suited. thanks rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Have you looked at a Browning 525, good reliable gun and usually slightly longer in the stock than a Beretta. This is not meant to kick off the Browning/Beretta argument. David. Also have a look at the Miroku 6000/7000 or MK60/MK70, similar to the Browning but nearer to your budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Miroku 800 Winchester 101 nikko shadow all available for your budget or less https://www.guntrader.co.uk/mobile/gunDetail.php?NewGunID=140510112044001&skipNo=15&perPage=60&Filter%5BNewType%5D%5B%5D=Shotgun&Filter%5BNewMechanism%5D%5B%5D=Over+and+Under&Filter%5BCalibre%5D%5B%5D=12+gauge&Filter%5BMake%5D%5B%5D=Miroku&sortField=poa&sortOrder=asc https://www.guntrader.co.uk/mobile/gunDetail.php?NewGunID=140913142713001&skipNo=15&perPage=60&Filter%5BNewType%5D%5B%5D=Shotgun&Filter%5BNewMechanism%5D%5B%5D=Over+and+Under&Filter%5BCalibre%5D%5B%5D=12+gauge&Filter%5BMake%5D%5B%5D=Winchester&sortField=poa&sortOrder=asc Edited September 22, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 And no spares for any of them ,Not the guns to recommend to a mate .Lengthening a stock is not a problem . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Personal I'd save up a little more and get the beretta, still plenty of spares, and will hold it's value. The HDAV has recommended are very good but parts are hard to find so it's expensive if the go wrong as some will have to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 And no spares for any of them ,Not the guns to recommend to a mate .Lengthening a stock is not a problem . Yet the 101 holds its price amazingly well. I've had quite a few of them and apart from one pitted firing pin have had no issues with them at all. The last two I owned were sold for more than I bought them. They are good guns. Buy a Beretta or a Browning by all means, they are very good guns also, but don't disregard the 101 simply for fear of it breaking down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Hi guys. Any advice or ideas appreciated. I have been looking for a 12G Beretta for around the £600 mark . I appreciate this is the very lowest bracket for a second hand beretta but have found a few but unfortunatly they have all been a bit too short. I am now thinking of alternatives . I really like the solid feel to a beretta and have seen some nice scroll work on rizzinis. This gun will be for game / wildfowling. Any suggestion would be great. Err, get one extended perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00jacksonp Posted September 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Thanks every one for your help . Err, get one extended perhaps? Err , extensions will cost money, I would be better off spending the money on one that wouldn't need any work doing for the same overall price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) While parts aren't available from the maker they can be made adapted or scavenged.... If you find a good condition one that fits you and your budget I would rather an old 101 or 800 than a brand new wobbly & snot which will undoubtedly need parts... A well done extension isn't cheap and will change the handling! Edited September 23, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Adjustable stock extensions - 20 quid off the auction site - They'll give you an extra inch and a half and take an hour to fit and grind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Adjustable stock extensions - 20 quid off the auction site - They'll give you an extra inch and a half and take an hour to fit and grind And look terrible especially on a game gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 And look terrible especially on a game gun. No they don't look that good. Recoil pad can get you about 1"1/8 then you need spacers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) You said about a rizzinis you can buy them for around 300 to 400 max a nice e rizzin with scroll or game seen side plate muti choke gun that will cover game and get a beretta Al 391 urika can get the mark 1 for around 350 to 450 for wildfowling two guns for little over I say you shop wisely get thevpair for 700 Edited September 23, 2014 by littlerob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 if they all come up to short I suggest mostly any will need extending, personally I should do it myself at nil cost but I except not all are capable- for this we have slip over types Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Fit on older Browning/ Miroku is different to the fit of Berettas. I have had 3 Mirokus over the years, all tended to shoot left for me. You may be different. Newer Browning 20 bores are pretty much the same as Beretta 12s fit wise as are Nikko's and some older Winchesters such as the 101 lightweight game. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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