Woodlander Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Just been out with my last 3 cartridges. Used boresighter to get near and sure enough windage adjustment ran out 2 inches short. This was at 35 yards. The rifle was bought a couple of months ago from a gunshop. It's original owner put a handful of rounds through it then PX it for a shotgun,still has the factory oil on it. I'm thinking he got fed up with it not shooting straight. What are my options,either with fixing the problem or with the gunshop. Any advice please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 If you centralised (meaning the turret has an equal amount of 'clicks' on either side of its starting point, if you see what I mean) the windage and elevation turrets before mounting I can't understand how you 'run out' of either, all being ok with reticle and mounts of course. I would suggest you take it back to your dealer and explain what is going on; they are in the best position to help really. Let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Have you tried it with a different scope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodlander Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I've tried it with 2 high end scopes and Warne and Optilock mounts. The scope has 75 clicks each side of centre and still runs out 2 inches right of the bull at 35 yards. I think I've ruled out scopes and mounts which can only mean it's the rifle,either the dovetail is out of alignment or the barrel isn't straight. Does that make sense? Does this happen? I'm in Shetland and the gunshop is in the East Midlands,this could get expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 MOA - 1 click = 1/4" at 100 yards. Do the maths - You don't have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry931 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 You could put a picatinny rail on it and use the burris signature zee rings to add windage Perhaps the shims would even fit the optilock rings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 MOA - 1 click = 1/4" at 100 yards. Do the maths - You don't have a problem. Depending of the scope...could be anything from half (1⁄2), quarter (1⁄4), or eighth (1⁄8) MOA increments. My money are on the rifle being dodgy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Model calibre bullet make weight scope make photo of it mounted. ? Last time YOU cleaned the rifle ? Recoil lug condition or is it there ? Action correctly in the stock ? Crown condition ? Screw cut ?mod ? Chamber condition barrel condition (just because it's fired only a few rounds doesn't mean it's ace) All thease things may be of help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Have you shot a group anywhere on the target even if it's off centre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Woodlander, Put some pictures up of the scoped rifle, view from above, also picture of the crown area, also answers to amazed questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Woodlander, Put some pictures up of the scoped rifle, view from above, also picture of the crown area, also answers to amazed questions Didn't mean to sound rude I was being hurried whilst posting my reply. It could be a lot of things I wouldn't jump in thinking the worst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodlander Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 No worries at all. It's an M595 stainless .222 Ase Ultra mod. Mounts used Warne and Optilock Scopes used,both Z6. Lugs in place,carefully tightened. PPU cartridges. Had 3 rounds left. At 35 yards,First 4 inches low 3inches to the right. Dialed elevation up to centre,tried to dial windage and ran out after 1 inch leaving me 2 inches to the right. Put 2 shots touching,don't think its an accuracy thing. Have taken photos but don't know how to upload them. Could send them to your email,Amazed,if you pm it to me. Regards Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernel gadaffi Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Swap the mounts/rings around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Yup it's a mounts issue if it groups, just get some wind age adjustable mounts and you will sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Sounds like a mounting issue Are you sure the mounts are not at the ends of the dovetails as this will hold the mount off And that the dovetails are free from defect, dirt and debris which would again allow the mount to sit incorrectly That the mounts do not have any defect in the area where they clamp to the dovetails Use an image hosting site like photobucket for pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 That being said about the mounting dovetails the m959 is a truly over engineered action. My thoughts lean towards the barrel contacting the stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 leupold std mounts and rings. The rear are adjustable for windage n the front swivels. They are not expensive, have them on my 308 and they are bomb proof, usually if my 308 Tika is shooting bigger groups than normal its me.(they screw to the action so doesn't matter if dovetail is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 leupold std mounts and rings. The rear are adjustable for windage n the front swivels. They are not expensive, have them on my 308 and they are bomb proof, usually if my 308 Tika is shooting bigger groups than normal its me.(they screw to the action so doesn't matter if dovetail is out. +1 I had these on my 223. Set the sight to the null setting and bore sight using the mount windage adjustment. Fire the odd round or two should you wish and make any necessary further adjustment using the same method. Tighten everything up and finally fine tune using the scope turret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodlander Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 The barrel isn't touching the stock at any point,so rules that out and gunshop to their credit has said no problem to sorting out the problem(if there is one and I'm not being completely dense). It will cost around £60 each way,but I think if it gets sorted and I get back a straight shooting rifle,that would be better than buying new mounts to fix that problem,wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Just make sure you post up the solution even at the cost of being a little red faced, its always good for others to hear solutions to these problems or possible manufacture problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodlander Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 I certainly will. I'd just like to say thanks to everyone who posted advice,shame I'm not a little closer,so I could pop along for a second,hands on opinion. I'm sure I'm doing everything right,ran through it all again and I've just put a new scope on my .22 without any trouble. Have decided to send it away,it may take a while, And will post the findings whatever the outcome. Cheers all Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Check barrel is not touching the stock with everything in position for the shot not on a work bench. Then my money is on mounts, Leupold are good IMHO experience. Are you sure the ones you have are on the right way around, even this before! Cancel that seen you've used Warne Edited October 6, 2014 by welshwarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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