delburt0 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Long story short picked a new gun up 3 days ago second outing today was cleaned after the first outing no problem. When cleaning today I noticed a 2" long grey mark about 5mm wide at the chamber end just at the start of the cone ( I have shot plas wad today ) obviously on the chrome barrels it stands out a mile I've rodded it for best part of a hr and it's still there I think it might have faded a little but now I've lost natural light it's hard to tell. Anyone had this before sensible replies welcomed. Atb delburt0... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Some guns seem to suffer from it more than others , my versamax tends to suffer , my solution is to ignore it , its not damaging the gun and its not effecting performance so why worry. If you really must remove it you will need to soak it in a solvent bore cleaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Some guns seem to suffer from it more than others , my versamax tends to suffer , my solution is to ignore it , its not damaging the gun and its not effecting performance so why worry. If you really must remove it you will need to soak it in a solvent bore cleaner. Or pour boiling water down the barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) First time I cleaned it the bore was spotless it was only after today crow shooting, but it has had array of carts through it today, I no it does not affect the gun but i only got it out of the box on Monday I suppose it's like ripping a new pair of new jeans when you where a kid :-) Edited October 10, 2014 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Put your brush on a drill works everytime for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Cellos thinners works sorry for the spelling Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Clenzoil and a Turbo brush will get it sorted. PM me for details. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Payne brush and a bit of legia spray and then a little elbow grease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 put a brush in a drill and run up and down the bore with it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 +1 for the drill. Note to self- make sure it is charged up first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Went down the acetone and drill route worked for about 15 seconds before by bronze mop packed in and fell to bits no spare as I always use a bore snake as a rule, Soaked in legia then bore snake done it twice and it's just about gone there's a very big improvement my arms are aching and I'd rather be watching racing but hey ho. Least there's 20 cans in my pigeon freezer in the garage ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) DellburtO I had same when I tried the drill the twisted wire part came out of the brass thread but. On chrome lined guns I never worried about it as it only builds up to a point as it self cleans beyond a certain point. On a non chromed lined bores I take it out incase it traps moisture or causes any rust or pitting. Be interested in webers method of turbo brush and cleanzoil, is a turbo brush the spiral Turks head type as I have one and thought of getting cleanzoil patches to put round it. I normally wrap a soaked patch round mine and start scrubbing but it takes an age, have started using a Payne Gallway chamber brush with bore solvent then Napier ultra clean on a jag turn it over to mop out then kitchen roll before oiling with a mop. Would like a faster method. Figgy Edited October 12, 2014 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725-chris Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Philips bore cleaner is pretty potent at cleaning chambers/barrels. Spray in the chambers, roll around then go at it with a bronze brush. No need for a drill or massive amounts of rod work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Rifle bore cleaner does the job but stinks a bit especially in the kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Don't you have to be careful with some of the rifle stuff. As it's for dissolving copper and left a bit long can eat the metal too. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) DellburtO I had same when I tried the drill the twisted wire part came out of the brass thread but. On chrome lined guns I never worried about it as it only builds up to a point as it self cleans beyond a certain point. On a non chromed lined bores I take it out incase it traps moisture or causes any rust or pitting. Be interested in webers method of turbo brush and cleanzoil, is a turbo brush the spiral Turks head type as I have one and thought of getting cleanzoil patches to put round it. I normally wrap a soaked patch round mine and start scrubbing but it takes an age, have started using a Payne Gallway chamber brush with bore solvent then Napier ultra clean on a jag turn it over to mop out then kitchen roll before oiling with a mop. Would like a faster method. Figgy Mr. Potter and DaveTG have both tried and approved the turbo brush and Clenzoil remedy for plastic fouling. I received an email from DaveTG about a week ago, it asked me to put two more bottles of the Clenzoil in my car for collection at the next shoot. "anything that's so good has to be banned sometime soon; I'll stock up whilst I can" Yes the turbo brush is a spirally wound looped brush. I sell the brushes on ebygumbay, the margin on Clenzoil isn't sufficient to allow me to also sell it on there. My webshop needs some serious updating. I'm at the Tackle & Gun show tomorrow; I'll respond to PMs for prices and options on Tuesday when I'm back in the shop. The Turbo Brush can be purchased individually for £4.95 including 1st. Class Postage. I can do Paypal. I have 12 & 20 gauge in stock. I will increase the range when I next order which will probably be after Christmas. webber Edited October 12, 2014 by webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Order placed and payment sent for my turbo brushes and clenzoil.. Thx again webber... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpigeon3 Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Best thing to do, is after you have cleaned it give it a Good spray down the barrels with Napier and put it in the cupboard. When you come back a few days later, give it a very light spray and wrap a patch around your brush and push it through. Works like a charm, as they say, time is the best healer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Got the turbo brush and clenzoil off webber tried this and it didn't work, (even though excellent product and service) I had the gun out yesterday and all of the hardworking I did removing the so thought plastic fouling returned again after 3 shots where fired, also in the exact same place as before something says it is not fouling but barrel , the gun is going back Monday as the recoil pad has also split after been used twice.. Not a happy bunny at the mo... Ant thoughts on the barrel thoughts appreciated.. Edited October 18, 2014 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 I had a similar thing with my semi auto to what you describe above gmk replaced the barrel in the end as the chrome lining was detaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 http://s913.photobucket.com/user/delburt0/library/Barrel%20fouling Link to pics of the fouling unfortunately soaking with the clenzoil and using the turbo brush has not touched it any thought would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Kitchen roll plug pushed down to location of problem pour a little acetone, nail varnish remove. Put kettle on watch a bit of X factor, then give a bit of a rub with your turks head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I would expect to see fouling all the way around the barrel , pics are not that clear but looks like it could be some sort of damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Kitchen roll plug pushed down to location of problem pour a little acetone, nail varnish remove. Put kettle on watch a bit of X factor, then give a bit of a rub with your turks head. Tried that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I put this on another earlier thread, try it out, not much effort needed in operation. It looks to me as if it is sitting in the barrel in lumps, if it is I have had similar fouling on a much smaller scale on my o/u and what I used to remove it was this. I made up a tool by taking an old worn out bronze brush, unscrewing the metal spiral from the Parker Hale part then finding a suitably sized steel washer, just a little larger than the p/h holder diameter and putting a precision edge on the washer using wet and dry paper on a flat board, screw this to the holder with what I believe was a BA threaded screw fix the assembled tool to your cleaning rod and gently scrape away! Worked a treat for me, but use with care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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