Dumped Game

[scotslad]

It amazes me how quick some fellow shooters are to believe in old rubbish that is printed, esp when the organisation who prined it are so blantantly baised, wot chance have we got with the general public??

 

Like others have said i would say it's a fake, no doubt about it. All birds fairly well featherd no bones half eaten plucked birds? Even the plummage looks quite good so not been rained on. How often do u get a few dry days in scotalnd at this time of year??

[Piebob]

Totally agree . An anti posts up a pic, on an anti site, and most of us appear to believe the story without question. Bizarre.

[ack-ack]

Perhaps its just where some dude keeps his dead pheasant collection.

[big bad lindz]

Not nice to see.

 

A couple of comments that I read on the actual link would suggest that the the person who took the photos should name and shame the estate but so far he has not done so.

This could be for a couple of reasons that I can think of.

1, He has reported it and is under investigation

2, It is a set up.

 

I am sorry to read a couple of PW posts that say this actually has in the past been done and still go`s on.

I can understand the reason for disposing of birds that have " gone of " that not fit for the food chain, (I have done so myself with pigeons that turned as I am sure others have also done) but to leave them to be found is leaving it wide open for the anties and others to have a winge.

 

Has it reached the press in Scotland yet, time will tell.

[Fisherman Mike]

Perhaps its just where some dude keeps his dead pheasant collection.

I found an almost new Monopoly in a skip once.

[ryle]

Last year whilst working at the roadside near High Legh in Cheshire one of the guys on the job said "hey, there is a field over there with dead pheasants in it" Then it was "Dont you shoot?"

 

I told him he was probably mistaken but when I saw it, he was right. They were littered all over the field and it was a large field too. Not a good image especially NEXT to the main road (A50)

 

They had been chucked into the muck spreader and flung out along with the dung. Sad really

[birdsallpl]

Last year whilst working at the roadside near High Legh in Cheshire one of the guys on the job said "hey, there is a field over there with dead pheasants in it" Then it was "Dont you shoot?"

I told him he was probably mistaken but when I saw it, he was right. They were littered all over the field and it was a large field too. Not a good image especially NEXT to the main road (A50)

They had been chucked into the muck spreader and flung out along with the dung. Sad really

I wonder how they got there? Chucked onto the muck heap, who would ever have done that I wonder?

[maxie]

I worked on a large farm that used to have a christmas shoot every year for the gentleman farmer and his friends and game was dumped every year.It goes on, it`s no good denying it.

[ack-ack]

I worked on a large farm that used to have a christmas shoot every year for the gentleman farmer and his friends and game was dumped every year.It goes on, it`s no good denying it.

What? Its no good denying christmas?

[birdsallpl]

I worked on a large farm that used to have a christmas shoot every year for the gentleman farmer and his friends and game was dumped every year.It goes on, it`s no good denying it.

Thank you.

as someone else said, we should be naming and shaming these people who are damaging our sport and potentially bringing it into disrepute. We should be seeking them out and exposing them.

[maxie]

What? Its no good denying christmas?

Well I`m always in denial about Christmas.Have you been on the Bong again?

[Fisherman Mike]

I've known 100's of birds incinerated on one shoot ( now defunct) and also birds buried..but never dumped where the public could stumble across them.

[ack-ack]

Alright, i've got it. They were waiting for a bus and they died as the bus never came and they were very optimistic.

[Fisherman Mike]

Alright, i've got it. They were waiting for a bus and they died as the bus never came and they were very optimistic.

 

I think they were cut off by the floods which were caused by the ..........................? (Insert missing words)

[evo]

on our shoot and sometimes 300 bird days, the game dealer comes in his chilled van at the end of the day and every bird is taken away,never in all my years of shooting and beating have I ever seen birds dumped or buried,

 

one thing we sometimes do though is put all the collected birds at the end of the drive together on the floor until they are picked up by the driver of the mule and then put into pairs, so could the picture be of that ?

 

IMO its a bull photo taken by an anti or some other clown NOT involved in shooting or certainly against it

 

atb Evo

[maxie]

I think they were cut off by the floods which were caused by the ..........................? (Insert missing words)

Immigrants?

[FalconFN]

I think they were cut off by the floods which were caused by the ..........................? (Insert missing words)

Gays?

 

 

 

(Source: Silvester,UKIP 2014)

[Psyxologos]

If this is a genuine picture then it is a sad and unnecessary waste of perfectly good food. I have only partaken on a pheasant shoot once, and I decided against doing it again. The simple reason is that I did not like the attitude the rest of the guns and the keeper had. Leaving the small stuff out (what in my eyes looked like utter disrespect for the actual birds) the post shoot attitude was what stroke me as very odd and made the whole day pointless in my eyes. At the end of what I thought was a decent day (just over 100 birds for 8 guns) we were offered the birds to take home. I went for three brace (I shot six birds, so being a novice this is what I thought I was to take), and another guy took four brace. That's it. None of the other guns took any, and neither did the keeper. They offered the beaters to take some, and all of them did take a couple of brace each. I asked what is going to happen to the rest. they said 'Charlie will have them'. No mention of giving them away to someone or selling them to a dealer. I thought it was a waste, so I took another four brace. The rest of the guns were looking at me as if I was some sort of peasant who was given free food and was greedy trying to get as much home as possible. I felt really awkward. I set off with so much expectation for the day, and ended up standing in the middle of a field, waiting for birds with clipped wings (I was told that they did that so the birds do not fly away or too high) to come over my head so I can shoot them. Hardly a sporting experience, as far as I am concerned. I am having much more fun shooting at clays. Maybe this was a shoot with an attitude that is not reflected in other places. Maybe I found myself in the company of people who are in the minority with regards to their approach to pheasant shooting. I don't know.

 

I have since then helped beating in a DIY shoot a few times, and I enjoyed that a million times better. The birds were definitely not clipped at the wing, in one occasion (indicative of the rest) six people shot 10 birds in total (it is a tiny DIY shoot), all the birds were used (mostly by me, but that is because I know the rest of the guns took a fair share of birds in previous weekends so they had their freezer full) and the whole approach was much more respectable to the quarry.

 

Yesterday I was given by a friend a brace of partridge and a brace of pheasant. Tonight I breasted the birds, and cooked them with mushrooms, garlic and cream. Amazing taste, healthy free range food, and the best reason to shoot at live things, in my opinion. I am totally against waste, especially food waste.

Edited November 11, 2014 by Psyxologos

[birdsallpl]

Psyxologos

I believe that there are many on here that would agree whole heartedly with these sentiments. The thing about some people that partake in commercial driven days is that all they are interested in is the shooting and the day (which is what they pay for) They are not interested in the natural world and have no understanding. They enjoy the companionship and sadly some just turn up for the perceived kudos that they think it gives them. That is why like you many of us will never do commercial driven shooting. Small syndicates self run are great, commercial shoots, I guess as the saying goes, 'you get what you pay for'

Edited November 11, 2014 by birdsallpl

[Mungler]

In the words of Victor Meldrew,"i dont believe it".

Precisely. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.

 

All the farmers I know are dead shrewd and tight - there's one near me who puts his shot rabbits straight through a mincer (whole and in the skin) and fed to his dogs (along with regular worming tablets).

 

At the very least they would be breasted and then disposed of.

 

I am very skeptical of both the article and a couple of comments on this thread.

[Bitfitter]

All these people that know for sure it happens yet not one name of an estate or farm if posters are prepared to accuse the game shooting industry of wrong doing then they should have the courage to name the culprits failure to do so really diminishes there credibility.

 

As for clipping wings to stop the birds flying too high or away not sure I have laughed so much in a long time.

seems to me there are a lot of experts on here who have never been to a properly organised shoot nor understand how no mater how little game may be making at the dealers it is still a valuable commodity in a industry where every penny counts.

As an aside my game dealer is waiting at the end of each shoot day to take the game as soon as he can he also deliveres oven ready birds for me to give to the guns they are snapped up every day by the very grateful guests

[al4x]

I'm in the group of people who have been beating and shooting for a good few years an have never seen birds dumped. That commercial and farm shoots and both picked everything possible and the commercial ones here have regular collections and the farm shoots give them away.

You do get damaged birds that might find their way into a pit but certainly not scattered about as the last thing shoots want to do is encourage predators

[TIGHTCHOKE]

All these people that know for sure it happens yet not one name of an estate or farm if posters are prepared to accuse the game shooting industry of wrong doing then they should have the courage to name the culprits failure to do so really diminishes there credibility.

 

As for clipping wings to stop the birds flying too high or away not sure I have laughed so much in a long time.

seems to me there are a lot of experts on here who have never been to a properly organised shoot nor understand how no mater how little game may be making at the dealers it is still a valuable commodity in a industry where every penny counts.

As an aside my game dealer is waiting at the end of each shoot day to take the game as soon as he can he also deliveres oven ready birds for me to give to the guns they are snapped up every day by the very grateful guests

 

Very well put!

[marsh man]

I have been involved in shoots one way or the other since the early 70s and I have never seen birds dumped . I am not saying it don't go on as I have took birds to the game dealers where its cost more money to take them than for what little we got back .Last year our dealer wouldn't come for less than 100 as she said it cost more for diesel and labour than what the birds are worth.

 

Around our area most farms and estates are involved in game shooting and in a week this time of the year there must be 100s if not 1000s of birds shot and with commercial shoots having 2 and sometimes 3 shoots a week where do they all end up ?

 

When I took our Partridges to the dealers a few years back they were making 25p , most of our days were 150 bird days , we had 5 people picking up who were given 3 each , the guns were given 3 each , some of the beaters and helpers had a brace so by the time the damaged ones were sorted out I would take up between 80 and a 100 , worth £20 to £25 . There was a 50 mile return trip and with my time being paid for we didn't make much money but we had the satisfaction nothing we shot had gone to waste , even the ferrets had the ones we couldn't sell.

[ack-ack]

Yesterday I was given by a friend a brace of partridge and a brace of pheasant. Tonight I breasted the birds, and cooked them with mushrooms, garlic and cream. Amazing taste, healthy free range food, and the best reason to shoot at live things, in my opinion. I am totally against waste, especially food waste.

. Ah! But waht hdppened to the rest of the birds?