ditchman Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 I live 5 miles off the main road and the road is a dead end.......on average i see 4 fresh deer carcases a week on the road.....every week....always them little ones....water deer mutjac...**** ****...or dicka thingies..........i understand or told that the deer population is starting to get out of control.....someone said to me a while ago that to get on top of the deer problem....10's of 1000's need to be culled..........more and more i am seeing red deer lumping across the fields at any time of day.............. has anybody got any idea what numbers of deer are about in various parts of the country ...and what numbers need to be culled to get ontop of the problem...?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) But the 'professional deer stalkers' say. "Leave it to us". A lot of them are more interested in selling shots to paying clients than keeping on top of the problem. Edited January 10, 2015 by rjimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 I think there are areas of the country where the habitat is just right for deer to proliferate. But in some areas not... Around these parts (Cotswolds) the Deer population is pretty stable there are plenty around and you do see the odd carcass on the road but if you went out during the day deliberately trying to spot some you would have difficulty. I don't think the population is as bad in most areas that require thousands to be culled as their population is controlled naturally to some extent, as the density is related to the available acreage. In the main most sporting and larger estates do a good job of keeping deer numbers under control and if its by paid culling so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 In some areas they are swarming , in others not so much. Some of the problems are people buying land and rights and selling it for big money, keeping the shooting tied etc. Some people pay big money for land and don't get out that often n all. Then there's people who'd love to be out alot but are priced out. Years ago also you could take deer with lurchers on land you had permission but now this is banned n all. Have looked at some charts and seems muntjac are spreading thick n fast. Even some stalkers complaining in areas they are a nuisance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 I've had muntjack in my garden - and I live in the suburbs - hardly rural (though there is a common nearby). As deer have no natural predators except humans, what keeps their numbers down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) There was an article in the press couple of weeks ago saying that the deer numbers have risen dramatically . The most seen have been in norfolk . I see road kills every time I am out over the farms and have dragged many deer off the road ,why do everybody just drive around them and leave them in the road ? I was talking to a policeman who told me that the deer in Norfolk are causing lots of problems being in places they shouldn't be and causing accidents on the road . Norfolk county council has said that there are to many deer and that an organised cull should take place . I don't know how they hope to organise it through out the county . Yes the deer are out of control in Norfolk . Harnser Edited January 10, 2015 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 I've had muntjack in my garden - and I live in the suburbs - hardly rural (though there is a common nearby). As deer have no natural predators except humans, what keeps their numbers down? Foxes take fawns regularly in the birthing season.. I observed two foxes quartering a hayfield a couple of years ago...watched them for an hour before they found what they were looking for in a thistle thicket.. and then carried it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 tis the problem most shooting rights are privately owned and so the leases cost top dollar . lots of people like me have to pay to shoot deer and i dont think theyd get all the landowners to agree to a cull of their income.as has been published in some areas they are thriving but in others have been poached to a rare sighting.can you imagine the tree huggers reaction if a council said it was organising a cull.theyd go mental<sorry even more mental than they are>.tis a minefield with no simple answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 firearms licensing's what's stopping me at the moment; Applied for .22-250 for foxes, which was granted, open and a.o.l.q. But, as that was going through, the farmer asked me to do something about the roe on his land. So, I called the f.l.o and asked to change it to .243 and explained about the Roe - was told I'd need a land inspection and dsc1 for that I left it alone, when the barrel's shot out I'll ask for something bigger and I also intend to do the dsc1 in the meantime. For now, the Roe are safe but I'm keeping an eye open for the munties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Foxes take fawns regularly in the birthing season.. I observed two foxes quartering a hayfield a couple of years ago...watched them for an hour before they found what they were looking for in a thistle thicket.. and then carried it off. When roe have young I often use a butallo roe caller to call in foxes. Edited January 10, 2015 by toontastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXHUNTER1 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Wish I lived in Norfolk .... :yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 But the 'professional deer stalkers' say. "Leave it to us". A lot of them are more interested in selling shots to paying clients than keeping on top of the problem. I would have thought any professional stalker wouldn't last long if he wasn't on top of the numbers culled . Regardless of the paying clients if the agreed cull isn't met you will soon be replaced . I see more problem with people buying stalking leases just because they can afford to & not actually getting out there and doing whats required .I picked up a neighbouring farm last year because the farmer realised the money he was getting (which was mind boggling ) didn't actually cover the damage being done to crops & fences..the guy that had it only come down in the rut , shot a few big bucks & disappeared till the following year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 See a programme on TV a couple of years ago, and they said there was 30,000 muntjac in thetford forest alone, so if anyone needs a hand with the cull, just PM me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Money will ensure that deer numbers will never be effectively controlled As an example, I was asked to call a keeper round our way as deer 'were causing a massive problem on shoot days' I called them up, the deal was they isolated a problem area drop a couple of us in high seats, we whack a few and then call them up to collect them, all meat to stay with the estate. I was interested, then they dropped the 'oh it's £90 a session' at which point I lost interest, they probably still have a deer problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 20 years ago chinese water deer did not exist on my Broadland shoot , now we are full of them. I had a friend over to try a stalk over a few weeks ago and in the middle of the day we found 33 deer on the shoot and close by boundary farms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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