Underdog Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I think and hope this is that little vixen I missed with the 357 at 160yards or so in December! Remember? I took hair off it! This time though is was the grand old distance of 20yds! Now for the twist! A couple of weeks ago I got a flaming for shooting a fox with a 22lr. The thing is, that fox shot through the ribs at 40yds in and out ran about thirty yards and piled up. This dotty vixen was shot with a win mag at 20yds through the ribs but ran 50yds before piling up! So which is better? This is a classic case for why I pay no credence to ft/lbs! Anyway it was a good morning, two are still in the area according to the shepherd and finding this little vixen took some diligent hunting and as per usual good fortune. The slightest twig as I crested a rise and she would of busted me! The 40gr Remmie soft point raked her left shoulder and exited the far rear rib. I will spare you the expletives she used on me! Now where is that dog! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Nicely done U, well shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well done UD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well done UD. I agree, it makes a nonsense of classifying species to calibre. I cannot understand why I can legally shoot Roe in Scotland with my 223, but not in England and Wales. The 223 certainly has the stopping power. We actually give them to NATO soldiers to stop the enemy, which are certainly larger than a Roe!! It's accuracy that kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well done UD. I agree, it makes a nonsense of classifying species to calibre. I cannot understand why I can legally shoot Roe in Scotland with my 223, but not in England and Wales. The 223 certainly has the stopping power. We actually give them to NATO soldiers to stop the enemy, which are certainly larger than a Roe!! It's accuracy that kills. In Scotland so I believe Hornet was the favourite roe cartridge! Then the experts came along!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul taylor Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Win mag. Total overkill shame on you under dog lol. Keep the posts coming mate👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Win mag. Total overkill shame on you under dog lol. Keep the posts coming mate No such thing as overkill. When it's dead it's dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Win mag. Total overkill shame on you under dog lol. Keep the posts coming mate that's what I use on close to medium range foxes ( .300 Win mag ) but I find at longer distances, say, 60-80 yards, it lacks the devastating trauma caused by the far superior .22 LR round!!!!!..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 300 win mag is a belting round. Belting lol, see what I did there lol. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Top marks good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Well done Underdog - I always enjoy and look forward to your postings. At my recent firearms renewal visit I was informed that North Wales have now stopped the use of the 17hmr on fox! Edited February 8, 2015 by browning123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well done Underdog - I always enjoy and look forward to your postings. At my recent firearms renewal visit I was informed that North Wales have now stopped the use of the 17hmr on fox! At the risk of a grilling I would not be too excited about shooting anything bigger than a rabbit with a 17grn bullet.In my book it has to be able to make two new holes through the ribs. In and out. Understanding what the gun in hand is capable of determines how it should be used. 22lr frontal shots I am more confident than I ever would be with a hmr! Same with the wmr with the super light bullets. This is as I have found that the harder you push something the same forces try to stop it causing a risk of shallow wounds. Lr just expands a little and plods through. My choice for wmr is forty grainers. The 25 grainers I have are poor in my opinion. They won't go 3" in soft earth and no expansion! If the hmr could shoot a 30grn bullet at 2100 it may of been a different animal! Just my musings. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly47 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well done Underdog - I always enjoy and look forward to your postings. At my recent firearms renewal visit I was informed that North Wales have now stopped the use of the 17hmr on fox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly47 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Yep, I applied a year ago only to be told I need a .222 for Fox.... So I put in for .22,.17hmr And .222 and got them all on a open ticket first time... (Lucky boy) Keep it up u, enjoying your posts as always. Tedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yep, I applied a year ago only to be told I need a .222 for Fox.... So I put in for .22,.17hmr And .222 and got them all on a open ticket first time... (Lucky boy) Keep it up u, enjoying your posts as always. Tedly What about hornet? They must be whopping fox's your way! U;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Well done U you will have the others soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye18 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Well done underdog.i saw a fella from the U.S. on youtube shoot a hog at 20yards with a .22lr tracer round.dropped it stone dead so proving that accuracy can take up the slack when using a round that some think is too small for the job!ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Well done underdog.i saw a fella from the U.S. on youtube shoot a hog at 20yards with a .22lr tracer round.dropped it stone dead so proving that accuracy can take up the slack when using a round that some think is too small for the job!ATBYes, shoot a deer through the gut and ft/lbs become meaning less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hey well done UD, but no knocks yet ;-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hey well done UD, but no knocks yet ;-( No one biting :-(( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 There is no point is there. You are far knowledgable than anyone else........ Youngie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Underdog, looking at her teats they look a little pert, have they been at it round your way ? Was out the other night and they were calling all around were i was shooting, didn't see anything round my bits mind, just kept hearing the calls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Underdog, looking at her teats they look a little pert, have they been at it round your way ? Was out the other night and they were calling all around were i was shooting, didn't see anything round my bits mind, just kept hearing the calls Never noticed the teats but her special place was swollen. There is a dog with her yes and that has attacked a local terrier and big lambs. Something tells me they are later this year compared to last! A few weeks ago these were very vocal, locals say they still are. Am going down there tonight, 9ish. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 You caught her in good time then UD. Although its pest control I don't like leaving anything to starve to death, getting them before they whelp is a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 You caught her in good time then UD. Although its pest control I don't like leaving anything to starve to death, getting them before they whelp is a bonus. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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