spanj Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 I haven't dodged the question, a bisexual makes no choice, no more than straight people or gay people do ok, ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 I haven't dodged the question, a bisexual makes no choice, no more than straight people or gay people do or are you referring to preference here? that's more based on the individual that theyr'e with if you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Makes my blood boil t.b.h. Why can't they let them be kids while they have the chance? Teaching the basic mechanics would be plenty, but not at 5 or 6. What use is there in teaching homosexuality to children? When the time comes to make a decision on your sexuality, something a teacher told you 10+ years ago won't come into it. Schools seem to have their priorities all wrong nowadays. Call me old fashioned but I reckon reading and writing are more important than people's bedroom preferences. My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 A good point and it could be the start of a child understanding he/she may be gay and making sense of some of the confused feelings he/she may have,telling Mum and Dad is going to be the hardest thing he/she may do in their teenage years,how you deal with that will decide your relationship with them from that point on. i would not have had a problem if any of my kids had been gay they are what they are. as it stands i agree with you 100% and think young people have to be told about homosexuality as its a fact of life and not something you can bury your head in the sand and pretend dont exist anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 A good point and it could be the start of a child understanding he/she may be gay and making sense of some of the confused feelings he/she may have,telling Mum and Dad is going to be the hardest thing he/she may do in their teenage years,how you deal with that will decide your relationship with them from that point on. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sauce Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 parental responsibility...... ? You obviously don't know me that well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Why is it only nowadays that they consider it important to teach this stuff? I read something the other day about how many inner city kids couldn't identify a cow from a horse, and had never even heard of Winston Churchill, yet they all know about homosexuality? Priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Why is it only nowadays that they consider it important to teach this stuff? I read something the other day about how many inner city kids couldn't identify a cow from a horse, and had never even heard of Winston Churchill, yet they all know about homosexuality? Priorities. Spot on - which is one reason this country is in such a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Why is it only nowadays that they consider it important to teach this stuff? I read something the other day about how many inner city kids couldn't identify a cow from a horse, and had never even heard of Winston Churchill, yet they all know about homosexuality? Priorities. Overheard in WH Smiths the other day. Two young male shop assistants in conversation: 'What's all this in the papers about Dresden?' 'The bombings of Dresden in WW2' 'Why were we bombing civilians?' 'We were at war; they bombed Coventry'. 'Oh, did they?' Priorities and issues change, but history rarely does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Why is it only nowadays that they consider it important to teach this stuff? I read something the other day about how many inner city kids couldn't identify a cow from a horse, and had never even heard of Winston Churchill, yet they all know about homosexuality? Priorities. Inner city kids have had the reputation of it knowing the size and names of animals going back to the 50's,most of it is a myth, kids these days are very media savy and know a lot more than you credit them with. I was in school in the 70-80's and we never did any of the world wars, so it is nothing new, do you want sex to stay in the victoriana age? Whispered about and seen as something taboo, or have your children informed of the facts and have a healthy outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 I think they should give them sax lessons and not sex lessons. Always good to learn to play an instrument as a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Normal was when being gay didnt allow you to have kids, fine be gay, its not my problem, but......... Now anyone has the right to have them even if they dont accept normal heterosexual sex methodolgy. Its all a bit illogical. Not my problem either but, I believe that your sexual orientation is pretty much set at birth and the AC/DC percentage spilt in the population is well recognised, however it is the society which you exist in that dictates what is normal and accepted behaviour in an individual or group and for many of certain persuasions a universal acceptance of some things as the new norm will be a long time coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Reading this ever so fluffy thread,I wonder how after bringing up the kids 7 off (last one female aged 20 still at home) the six now gone all manged to end up happily married and with kids of their own (all after the marriage bit) without the aid of a fresh out of uni left wing Ms telling them about the birds and the bees at the age of 5 or 6, oh hang on then, that will be the fact my wife and myself were and still ARE parents, a trait that seems to have been abdicated looking at some of the responses here. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Not my problem either but, I believe that your sexual orientation is pretty much set at birth and the AC/DC percentage spilt in the population is well recognised, however it is the society which you exist in that dictates what is normal and accepted behaviour in an individual or group and for many of certain persuasions a universal acceptance of some things as the new norm will be a long time coming! should that not read its the diverse loud MINORITY who dictate what is classed as accepted behavior, as I can not recall ever being asked to give an opinion on it? KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Homosexuality is not only normal, it is important. How else can the Pigeon Watch Cotswold meet be so successful? You do realise that your avatar is a gay icon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 You do realise that your avatar is a gay icon? Don't worry, he realises. Malc has a Large Gay Following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Ah, minorities with pals in ‘high places’ of like persuasion, ‘Social Progress’, the plague that killed the dinosaurs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Ah, minorities with pals in ‘high places’ of like persuasion, ‘Social Progress’, the plague that killed the dinosaurs! and here's me thinking it was because they lacked a certain type of education from an early age, I would like to nominate my previous sentence for the worst joke of the year section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Though I have no issues with this, I would rather they taught children about the dangers of the internet, grooming etc. My kids are older now but I was more worried about the internet and social sites than I was about them learning about the birds and the bees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Not my problem either but, I believe that your sexual orientation is pretty much set at birth and the AC/DC percentage spilt in the population is well recognised, however it is the society which you exist in that dictates what is normal and accepted behaviour in an individual or group and for many of certain persuasions a universal acceptance of some things as the new norm will be a long time coming! I think you're wrong there, no one is born gay there's no gay gene. You learn everything from birth, circumstances in how you are raised and interact with others determine the way you behave, and the person you are. Don't get me wrong being gay isn't a choice it's how your brain has programmed you. Look at feral children that have been raised with packs of animals, they don't talk or walk upright, they behave exactly like the animals that have raised them. I'm neither for against homosexuals, as long as they don't fluant it in front of me I'm happy to get on with their lives as normally as everyone else and I'll raise my son hopefully with the same views as me. Would I be gutted if he turned out gay?, yes but I'd love him the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 I think you're wrong there, no one is born gay there's no gay gene. You learn everything from birth, circumstances in how you are raised and interact with others determine the way you behave, and the person you are. Don't get me wrong being gay isn't a choice it's how your brain has programmed you. Look at feral children that have been raised with packs of animals, they don't talk or walk upright, they behave exactly like the animals that have raised them. I'm neither for against homosexuals, as long as they don't fluant it in front of me I'm happy to get on with their lives as normally as everyone else and I'll raise my son hopefully with the same views as me. Would I be gutted if he turned out gay?, yes but I'd love him the same. Not been cheeky, But do you believe everyone is born with no predetermined traits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Not been cheeky, But do you believe everyone is born with no predetermined traits? I think everyone is born with different genetics, some are more naturally better at sports and others are quicker to learn and hold onto information. But if you're asking do I think people are born gay?, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Some times i wonder if we have moved on from the last century reading some of these posts.Children are taught about their bodies at a young age,they are taught that they are private and people are not allowed to touch them,do you not want this for your children?to know what is right and wrong?how often these days do we hear of people coming forward because uncle berty used to touch them but they did not know it was wrong at the time. Later they are taught about sexuality and that not everyone's orientation is the same,is that such a bad thing?does it matter which way you swing? Kids are being empowered with knowledge,to keep themselves safe,to grow up with a broadened attitude to one's sexuality,and that can only be a good thing. Only a Neanderthal would not want their children to be safer, better informed and able to know what is wrong and right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 I think you're wrong there, no one is born gay there's no gay gene. You learn everything from birth, circumstances in how you are raised and interact with others determine the way you behave, and the person you are. Don't get me wrong being gay isn't a choice it's how your brain has programmed you. Look at feral children that have been raised with packs of animals, they don't talk or walk upright, they behave exactly like the animals that have raised them. I'm neither for against homosexuals, as long as they don't fluant it in front of me I'm happy to get on with their lives as normally as everyone else and I'll raise my son hopefully with the same views as me. Would I be gutted if he turned out gay?, yes but I'd love him the same. Really! So the environment they are brought up in makes them gay,never have i heard such utter and total rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Some times i wonder if we have moved on from the last century reading some of these posts.Children are taught about their bodies at a young age,they are taught that they are private and people are not allowed to touch them,do you not want this for your children?to know what is right and wrong?how often these days do we hear of people coming forward because uncle berty used to touch them but they did not know it was wrong at the time. Later they are taught about sexuality and that not everyone's orientation is the same,is that such a bad thing?does it matter which way you swing? Kids are being empowered with knowledge,to keep themselves safe,to grow up with a broadened attitude to one's sexuality,and that can only be a good thing. Only a Neanderthal would not want their children to be safer, better informed and able to know what is wrong and right. Couldn't agree more, times have moved on and a lot of people are still homophobic. Just because your kids are being taught about same sex couples doesn't mean they're going to turn out gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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