throttlemonkey Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Your full entitlement is on your plastic half of your licence, the weight you can tow with your vehicle is on the metal plate under the bonnet. All other info can be found on .gov.uk website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throttlemonkey Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) You cannot tow anything without b+e full entitlement Doesn't sound how I meant it to sound Again I refer you to .gov.uk Edited April 8, 2015 by throttlemonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 ok ,so with a B licence i cant tow a trailer with a car with a combined weight of 3.5t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver90owner Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I reckon you would be needing an HGV licence to drive any rig weighing in at 2300kg + 7.5 tonne, and I am doubting the internet site. My A, D, E licence allows me up to 7.5 tonne plus a trailer of max 750kg (never sure if it was that or 8250kg gross with a trailer). Any trailer over 3500kg gross prolly needs power brakes as well (not over-run) as well. A friend runs a rangerover as it can tow 3500kg gross trailed weight with over-run brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 We have Nearly all the facts, But, Do you know of anybody being done for an over wheight towing. (Not Heavy Goods). I do not even see them being pulled at the roadside, as long as you don`t cause a pileup who is wise to it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyChris Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Police run weigh bridge stops all the time and secondly, if you crash and don't have the right license then no insurance payout and many many points on your license! Not worth the risk as a trailer test isn't that expensive and quite informative if you've never towed before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbietherimmer Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 yesterday I saw a hilux towing a trailer with an l200 on it - surely that exceeds 3.5ton and would have been illegal?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver90owner Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 We learned (how difficult it was) to reverse 4 wheel trailers with a turntable - and without separate rear wheel brakes on the tractor. There are a lot of 'drivers' out there that have trouble reversing a vehicle, let alone with a trailer behind. When I first met my wife she would never park anywhere she might need to reverse, either to park or to get out of the parking space. She only parked at supermarkets where she could drive through one space into another; she never frequented supermarkets at busy times! Among other things I had to teach her was not to turn the steering while waiting to make a right turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 yesterday I saw a hilux towing a trailer with an l200 on it - surely that exceeds 3.5ton and would have been illegal?? Without looking it all up, the Hilux can probably tow 2.8 tons legally (may even be more). The L200 probably weighs 2 tons, possibly less. The trailer would probably weigh somewhere around 600kg. Most likely legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 They are very fond of pulling in cars towing caravans on holiday routes now. Talking to a chap at our local caravan spares place who got done for his rig being overweight. Fine and points. They will of course check your licence for the relevant letters at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Without looking it all up, the Hilux can probably tow 2.8 tons legally (may even be more). The L200 probably weighs 2 tons, possibly less. The trailer would probably weigh somewhere around 600kg. Most likely legal. Aye but would the combined weight not be over 3.5T (2T Hilux+ 2T L200 + Trailer), i have towed 2.5 or 3T mini diggers before but not sure it is legal (infact pretty sure its not) Amazing how complicated it seems to be. With an older licence u can drive a 7.5T wagon (but no trailer) and tow a trailer up to ur cars limit or the 3.5T With the new licence u can tow up to 750kg, i know a ot of wood chippers are making chippers sub 750 just for that to save all the youngstes needing trailer tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 With an older licence u can drive a 7.5T wagon (but no trailer) and tow a trailer up to ur cars limit or the 3.5T With my 'older' full license, I can drive a 7.5T wagon and tow a trailer where the gross train weight is up to 12T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Why do people find these towing laws so difficult they are there in black and white. The bits in blue are Taken from: https://www.gov.uk/driving-licence-categories Category B: You can drive vehicles up to 3,500kg Maximum Authorised Mass (MAM) with up to 8 passenger seats (with a trailer up to 750kg). You can also tow heavier trailers if the total weight of vehicle and trailer isn’t more than 3,500kg. (For this you have to use the plated MAM of the vehicle and the trailer not the actual weight at the time, this make it easier for VOSA to throw the book at you) Category B+E You can drive a category B vehicle with a trailer when they have a combined weight over 3,500kg. So you can basically tow whatever you want assuming its withing the limits of the car or van. The C1 and C1 + E are separate thing all together, before 1997 people got given them automatically (grandfather rights) now you have to take test for them. Edited April 9, 2015 by ferguson_tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Never thought of having "grandfather rights" before at the age of 46! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Thanks again ferguson_tom, I think some who have replied to this thread are slightly retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Russell Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I passed my driving test in sept 97 with a manual. Because i needed to tow heavier trailers i did my b+e test. However i did this trailer test with a auto ford explorer so i am only able to tow heavy trailers over 3.5t combined with an auto!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I passed my driving test in sept 97 with a manual. Because i needed to tow heavier trailers i did my b+e test. However i did this trailer test with a auto ford explorer so i am only able to tow heavy trailers over 3.5t combined with an auto!! What was the point in doing the trailer test in an automatic if you needed a manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I passed my driving test in sept 97 with a manual. Because i needed to tow heavier trailers i did my b+e test. However i did this trailer test with a auto ford explorer so i am only able to tow heavy trailers over 3.5t combined with an auto!! I have heard of this before but have you got a specific B+E Auto category on your license? The category is not listed on any of the GOV pages, is it a special note on the license or something? If not if you have just BE on your license then you may be okay to tow with a manual as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Russell Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Yep i have a code after my B+E /78 What was the point in doing the trailer test in an automatic if you needed a manual. I didnt have a manual 4x4, and i was never told it would result inma code on my license Edited April 10, 2015 by Jay_Russell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 78 is the DVLA code for auto, so it looks like your stuck with two pedals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Russell Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 78 is the DVLA code for auto, so it looks like your stuck with two pedals Indeed i am, however i doubt id ever buy a manual 4x4 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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