Tattooed Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Hi, 20 years ago I was a naughty boy. The procurators fiscal gave me a second chance and instead of going to court I had to go to the social work. Once it was finshed I was not prosecuted and the charges were dropped and you are left without a criminal record. I was 17 when I was charged by the police and got the diversion at 18 years old. Will that come up on a police background check? I think my lawyer said it would come of my record after 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Just be honest. Best person to speak to is your Firearms person at the Police. No other opinion is worth a bean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattooed Posted April 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 I never put it down on the forms becuase I was told it was not a conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) You will most certainly be checked through the CRO . If not a conviction (but I doubt it ) then it will not show up . Sounds like a caution to me which is indeed a conviction .it won't necessarily bar you from a licence . All convictions are kept by the CRO for 50 years . Harnser Edited April 28, 2015 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 I wouldn't worry about it but I would declare it. But if you haven't declared it and have sent in application I wouldn't worry about it either. If you've already sent your application in you could always give licensing a ring and explain the situation. Times have obviously changed since my first application, but when I first applied I went to the local cop shop and asked them for an account of my convictions from a mis-spent youth and was cockahoop to find there was no record! Like I said, I wouldn't worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattooed Posted April 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Hi, I remember being told at the time it was not a conviction. After the diversion as finshed, the chrages are dismissed. I'm sure my lawyer told me that it would come off my record after 2 years. I have had my vist from the FLO at he never said anything about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Don't know about 20 years ago, but the only misdemeanor in life I've been caught for resulted in me being prosecuted for poaching over 50 years ago and fined seven shillings and six pence. I've never declared it and it's never been mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattooed Posted April 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 here is an example of a diversion http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8140198.stm I wouldn't worry about it but I would declare it. But if you haven't declared it and have sent in application I wouldn't worry about it either. If you've already sent your application in you could always give licensing a ring and explain the situation. Times have obviously changed since my first application, but when I first applied I went to the local cop shop and asked them for an account of my convictions from a mis-spent youth and was cockahoop to find there was no record! Like I said, I wouldn't worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 here is an example of a diversion http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8140198.stm A 'minor charge'. Like i said, I wouldn't worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 I wouldnae worry about it now, times have changed abit with this police scotland lark, my old force were/are brilliant in the past with firearms stuff and tended to hand tickets out quite easily. Since its changed i've heard of a few folk being pulled up about silly wee things 20 odd years ago, but they've had licences all those 20 years and never mentioned it once it was offically of the record. Think the FEO boy now advises to put down nothing since last renewal so onus is on the polis and cannae try to say ur hiding anything. My mate just had his renewed and that's wot he put, he had a couple of 'breaches' many years ago but had no idea when really, he had guns even at the time he got done and never caused any bother but times have changed since then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Juicer Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 You mention, charged. Things may still appear on their computer, but you were a child at the time. 17 is still a child today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattooed Posted April 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 You mention, charged. Things may still appear on their computer, but you were a child at the time. 17 is still a child today. The charges should say dismissed/dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattooed Posted April 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 The only reason I'm a little worried is- clay pigeon shooting is the best thing I have ever done. Although, I have missed a few birds lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Allegedly, the police records are absolutely complete, and go back pretty much forever. We are certainly told that every single thing must be declared. But my 2 speeding convictions from the 1990s (which I declared on my application), the FEO explained that they had no record of them, and was I sure I'd actually gotten points and not just a warning for them ! Considering both were in the same force area as I live, quite surprising ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Just phone the feo and tell him, it'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny thomas Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I got charged with naughty boyness nearly 30 years ago just got my sgc after not having one for about 20 years forgot all about my conviction the police however did not it wasn't a problem but I got the impression they would rather you were honest about these things Providing its not for extreme violence or weapons related I don't think they worry too much I know someone who has an old conviction for assault he holds a sgc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattooed Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I can never understand how someone convicted for assault or gbh can get a shotgun licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny thomas Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I can never understand how someone convicted for assault or gbh can get a shotgun licence.It was a very old conviction there were also extenuating circumstances .We all make mistakes in our youth Its good to know there are perfect people around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Juicer Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I can never understand how someone convicted for assault or gbh can get a shotgun licence. A chap I worked with was found guilty of GBH in the 80's, and has guns. BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO GBH HIM AT THE TIME. Yes he run them down to save himself, but he still caused GBH, which went through the courts. He didn't get much punishment. It depends on the circumstances at the time. The charges should say dismissed/dropped. As he was a child, that will be taken into account. It won't affect him unless he has a few offences etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattooed Posted April 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I got charged with naughty boyness nearly 30 years ago just got my sgc after not having one for about 20 years forgot all about my conviction the police however did not it wasn't a problem but I got the impression they would rather you were honest about these things Providing its not for extreme violence or weapons related I don't think they worry too much I know someone who has an old conviction for assault he holds a sgc @Jonny- that was not aimed at you. Everyone makes mistakes. Myself included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Slightly off topic but never accept a police caution on the assumption that it is just a telling off with no future consequences. By accepting it you are admitting guilt and it does go on your record in the same way as a conviction. The consequences can be far more serious than you might imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I can never understand how someone convicted for assault or gbh can get a shotgun licence. Simple ........................he just threatened the FEO ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Don't know about 20 years ago, but the only misdemeanor in life I've been caught for resulted in me being prosecuted for poaching over 50 years ago and fined seven shillings and six pence. I've never declared it and it's never been mentioned. is that poacher & gamekeeper turned?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 is that poacher & gamekeeper turned?! Sums it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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