Salop Matt Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Folks, is it possible to get replacement fore ends made for side-by-sides?At the start of the year I picked myself up a nice little side-by-side, but it’s got this problem that’s getting worse. The problem is that the metal work isn’t the greatest fit for the wood on the fore piece. What I found last night was that the screw holding the metal work into the wood had come lose. I went to re tighten the screw but it doesn’t bite down onto anything so to speak, the screw keeps turning so has left me unable to use my SxS now which is a shame as I got on really well with it last night on a 50 bird clay round.What can I do to fix this?Or who can I get to fix it? I was thinking to drill the hole out that the screw goes into and fill it with Araldite, let that go off and them re-drill the hole and screw back in so the screw is into the Araldite. Any thoughts or advice would be great. The gun isn’t worth much but already it means a lot to me and I want to keep it going as its got a bit of a history.It’s an Ugartechea and if anyone knows of anyone who has spares for these that would be fantastic! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 It should be a simple repair , as you say some araldite in the hole should work as should some car body filler , or you could use a plug cutter and glue in a new piece of wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 As Fenboy says: drill and clean out the hole, cut a plug of similar coloured wood, glue in place and allow plenty of setting time. Finished with fine grades of sandpaper and re-stain. If cutting a plug is not an option, get some dowel and stain that first, then glue in place etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Forget the Araldite or anything similar and simply have a metal insert - you often see these as standard narrow diamond shaped so they don't spin with the screw - and make a permanent fix. Easy enough to DIY but a quick and inexpensive repair for a 'smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Is this the screw in the hinge area of the fore end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Drill the hole out and glue in a hard wood dowel, drill a pilot hole then refit the screw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Cheers Guys, I will drill the hole out and pu a dowl insert in ! Daff I was going to come to you first but as you have moved and arent down the road so to speak I figured I should ask on here ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) I will leave you to it then but finish with, scewing into end grain is not a good idea! Edited August 12, 2015 by Underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Is this the screw in the hinge area of the fore end? No its in the centre of the fore end. It holds the metal work into the wood ! Forget the Araldite or anything similar and simply have a metal insert - you often see these as standard narrow diamond shaped so they don't spin with the screw - and make a permanent fix. Easy enough to DIY but a quick and inexpensive repair for a 'smith. Any links to these dimond shaped fixing plates? I will leave you to it then but finish with, scewing into end grain is not a good idea! Because of the wood splitting ? I was thinking of just dremmeling out any oil damaged wood in the small square the size of a postage stamp and then Araldite a replacment block/cube of wood in and then red drill the hole and screw into the new peice ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Screwed from the iron side or the wood side? No strength in end grain for a screw, OK short term or to move a gun on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I would imagine that the diamond shaped inserts will be a RFD/gunsmith item and wouldn't be too surprised if someone local has something kicking about in the recovered items box. Provided the fore-end is not too much of a splinter version, something like this could be modified to do the job if you're not too fussy about looks. Probably need to re-work the screw head and trim to size when installed with perhaps a smear of Araldite on the 'nut'. http://www.thecountryman.com/swivel-studs-with-machine-screw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I have a fore end for a side by side here, I can't remember what it came off and it will probably end up in my chiminea, you're welcome to it if you think it's of any use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Any chance of a quick pic of it ! Cheers its much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) If it's a wood screw? Just cut a couple of slivers of walnut or similar hardwood, slip em in the hole cut em off flush, stick the forend iron in place and replace screw.....job done! Edited August 13, 2015 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 if you are screwing a largish screw into a small piece of wood it will split.....drill and plug the hole......then pilot drill the hole then get a screw the same size and pitch...heat it up to redish heat and burn very slowly the screw threads into the wood....dont do it in one go tho...in and out that way... just a suggestion......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Don't sod about with it-if you value the gun send the forend off to demonwolf444 on this very site-mans got sawdust in his veins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Sorry, been night shift........ here ya go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 and another pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Surely that should have had a steel insert, are you sure it's not fallen out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Surely that should have had a steel insert, are you sure it's not fallen out?[/quote The front one yes. I can see the impression in the Wood - it's a circle with a pointy tail comming off it and takes a machine screw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Yes please Hi Flyer I will take this if thats okay. Sorry for the delay in responding, ive been worked as a slave since fiday doing the wifes horse and jobs around the stables ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Do you know a chap called Peter Harris? He's a retired Gunsmith lives near you I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Yes but he thinks am rich and might want to rob me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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