Terry P Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Just seen this on Facebook. Seems the defra minister considers LAG a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Huzzah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Good old BASC. Swifts final cloak and dagger mission behind enemy lines has finally paid off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Ah! So all along it was a cunning plan to discredit the process?.........I was waiting for a Swift/BASC spin doctor to come up with this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Engineer Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Excellent news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Is this quote not taken from the Wesrminster Hall debate of early December 2015? And reported at the time? Read the input of the MP from Northern Ireland in this debate.......very good in my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Since when has common sense and truth stopped any Government from doing its own thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Made my day. LAG's done a superb job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 LAG's done a superb job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Sometimes buffoonery can be a good thing. No change to the status quo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 good ole' George. had a long and in depth discussion with him about this while sat in my front garden (he's my local MP) he's from a farming background and really knows his stuff. its nice to have a local MP that understands what shooting is, and what it means to the local populace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 So theres 60% more lead in bear and most other food stuffs we eat . And MPs backing us so .... Why are we not reading about this on the bbc webiste ? Dont get me wrong its great news for us as shooters But.... this is to be fare quite a big win for us . So why no coverage on media/news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Sometimes buffoonery can be a good thing. It certainly seems to have helped us here, which makes it all the more satisfying. I loved the post about John Swift having run a cloak and dagger inside job - now that would have been really funny if it were true. It's a great outcome as it has (apparently) led not only to the discrediting of the argument itself, but has also shown up those people and organisations involved as being vexatious and incompetent, which wont harm our cause any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 An excellent result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartynGT4 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Anyone else think we owe Barney White-Spunner a pint or three? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 So theres 60% more lead in bear and most other food stuffs we eat . And MPs backing us so .... Why are we not reading about this on the bbc webiste ? Dont get me wrong its great news for us as shooters But.... this is to be fare quite a big win for us . So why no coverage on media/news Quite agree....the last info' the general public received regarding this issue via the BBC was inaccurate and biased against shooting. Without a retraction or info' to the contrary that same general public will still believe that inaccurate and biased info' to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Engineer Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Quite agree....the last info' the general public received regarding this issue via the BBC was inaccurate and biased against shooting. Without a retraction or info' to the contrary that same general public will still believe that inaccurate and biased info' to be true. Just playing devil's advocate; Although I agree, maybe it is better that this issue has not drawn further attention from the press. More publicity would add fuel to the anti's fire, or at least bring the issue to the forefront of Joe Public's mind. It's worth remembering that whilst LAG has been a complete farce, if I were the DEFRA chief I would still want answers to the questions LAG was set up to investigate. That said, if BASC or anyone fully utilised the LAG's failure and it became national news/showed the anti's for what they are and made a small scandal out of it I would be delighted. Should "LAG round 2" ever get off the ground then I hope our shooting organisations are much much more pro active and vocal on the pseudo science used to fit an anti-shooting agenda. You might remember Scully I have talked with BASC (of whom I am a member) a few times about this and I am yet to receive a satisfactory answer that doesn't just say "we have released a statement on our website". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Anyone else think we owe Barney White-Spunner a pint or three? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) If Sir Barney get three pints Shifty Swifty gets Adams brewery and a vineyard! Edited January 8, 2016 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I think the story that the press would lead with would be more around how taxpayers money was squandered in establishing an 'independent and expert led' advisory group that was a resounding failure. If looked at in a particular way yet again it screams incompetence by Whitehall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartynGT4 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 If Sir Barney get three pints Shifty Swifty gets Adams brewery and a vineyard! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Anyone else think we owe Barney White-Spunner a pint or three? Yep. I may even join the CA later this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I read, with interest, that the WWT have stated that 50,000 to 100,000 birds die each year from lead shot ingestion. The RSPB have admitted that domestic pussy cats account for around 55 MILLION birds annually ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I read, with interest, that the WWT have stated that 50,000 to 100,000 birds die each year from lead shot ingestion. The RSPB have admitted that domestic pussy cats account for around 55 MILLION birds annually ! Their hypocrisy it seems, knows no bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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