tx4cabbie Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Does anyone know where I can buy 12 bore to .410 chamber inserts? Have rats in the garden, and can't justify a 410 shotgun just for them, and can't reasonably use a 12 in my tiny garden. 12 bore inserts which take a 410 shell would seem to be the answer. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 There was a guy on facebook a few mins ago asking for a value on a couple he wants to sell , if you have a idea of what you want to pay I could make him pass on your details to him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) Fantastic, superb timing. New they're about 40 delivered from the US,so 20 -30 I guess, depending on condition? Thanks mate, appreciate the help Edited January 16, 2016 by tx4cabbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 hello, i seem to remember having a british made one years ago?, now lost in time, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 You would be better spending the money on a live catch trap,it would work 24/7 for you and be more productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Fenboy, thanks very much, have seen the post on fb, appreciate the heads up. Have snaptraps but can't use in garden, as cocker spaniel would get her nose caught. Did think about a live capture trap, but I do nights, and if one got caught, my wife has to listen to it thrash around and the dog go bananas over it all night til I get in and shuffle it off it's mortal coil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Put a load of fen traps out and even more blue food You can only temporary dent rat populations shooting them Besides rats ain't as dumb as rabbits I only generally get a shot at one by chance until the population is seriously high I have a pair of lilskeeter 410 inserts for 12 bore they are ok just seem to lack velocity had lots of stuff simply stunned even at 25 yards so font stretch the range keep it under 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Just get her to run a bath for ratty and give him a dip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 My garden is a typical London suburb garden, about 40 by 40, feet not yards! Just big enough, with a sensible backstop, shooting from inside garage to attenuate the sound, for a fourten or 9mm rf to make clean kills and be safe. The rats are just sitting there, begging to be shot, as they've gotten used to no predators and plenty of birdseed. No way could my wife drown a rodent - a songbird flew across our path as she was driving, she hit it, as it wouldn't have been safe to avoid, and she pulled over and cried - most caring, feeling person I know, so killing things is my job, no sense no feeling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Just get her to run a bath for ratty and give him a dip.Nice humane dispatch there...... Im all for controlling the numbers but cage trap and drown is not a style I would use...Id say air rifle if you have a good backstop. Edited January 17, 2016 by ShootingEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Definitely air rifle unless you fancy a visit by the armed response vehicle if you're in any town but especially London. High likelihood of losing your ticket as well if this happens. Edited January 17, 2016 by Wingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Lets be honest here-are you looking for a bit of sport or do you want rid of Roland? The Rats have obviously found a nice place to live and a good source of food so they will breed faster than you can shoot them so you need to tackle the problem at base level-destroy their living quarters then use poison/traps to prevent a return. If you just want to have the odd bash at Ratty (till they wise up-which is fairly quickly) then an Airgun and some kind of sticky bait part hidden should give you hours of fun tucked up in your garage away from her indoors-added bonus is that she will see you as some kind of Bear Grylls defending the homestead and that's valuable Browny points in the legover department. Edited January 17, 2016 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 hello, are these legal to buy and sent to UK or are they restricted ? in the UK, i have a single 12 non ejector 28 inch barrel i looked at these Little Skeeters 12 g to 410. cheers for advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 My airgun is a crosman 781 bought about 25 years ago at a junk shop, fine for dispatch of rats caught in traps but not dead, but at any distance over 5 feet, not really man enough. Had an hw77 and an hw45 but sold them to fund Xmas gift for gf (now wife) while I was doing the knowledge. Not worth buying a half decent airgun for ratty, could get a 9mm rimfire for less money, which would throw smaller projectiles less likely to travel into other gardens. We have snaptraps and poison in areas where rats are seen, but have to be careful as the dog would be endangered if she could get to them. Have closed with a mix of concrete and wire wool several holes but our neighbour has pigeons and all the neighbours feed the birds with seed and peanuts, so the little rodents keep coming back, and appear to have made our composter one of their stops, and I can't trap or poison around it, so shooting would seem a likely alternative. Has a mound behind with decent stopping potential, so a safe shot, and a small shotgun round would be unlikely to summon the police as it's quite noisy here with building work going on during the day, a couple of doors away. Decent airgun - at least a hundred, and won't use that much. .410 shotgun - 70 plus, and won't use much. 9mm shotgun - 80 plus, won't use much. .410 chamber insert - 40 new, less second hand, handy to have in gun bag with handful of carts for when people bring kids to the club, good for rats, doesn't take up cabinet space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 If you're going to go down the shotgun route, just buy a .410. I sold my single barrel last year for 20 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 20 quid? That would have solved the problem, haven't seen a. 410 for less than 70. Don't fancy getting another one and letting it go for 20 to a good home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagle boy Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 You maybe as cheap buying a little single barrel 410 to be honest. Buy a cheap one let it do a job rather sell it for what you paid for it or just sit it in the cabinet till next time Cheers rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Have a word with wabbitbosher on here. He may be able to set you up with a cheap .410, if you just want for Rat shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Lets be honest here-are you looking for a bit of sport or do you want rid of Roland? The Rats have obviously found a nice place to live and a good source of food so they will breed faster than you can shoot them so you need to tackle the problem at base level-destroy their living quarters then use poison/traps to prevent a return. If you just want to have the odd bash at Ratty (till they wise up-which is fairly quickly) then an Airgun and some kind of sticky bait part hidden should give you hours of fun tucked up in your garage away from her indoors-added bonus is that she will see you as some kind of Bear Grylls defending the homestead and that's valuable Browny points in the legover department. mine just laughed and said get some flipping poison down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 My airgun is a crosman 781 bought about 25 years ago at a junk shop, fine for dispatch of rats caught in traps but not dead, but at any distance over 5 feet, not really man enough. Had an hw77 and an hw45 but sold them to fund Xmas gift for gf (now wife) while I was doing the knowledge. Not worth buying a half decent airgun for ratty, could get a 9mm rimfire for less money, which would throw smaller projectiles less likely to travel into other gardens. We have snaptraps and poison in areas where rats are seen, but have to be careful as the dog would be endangered if she could get to them. Have closed with a mix of concrete and wire wool several holes but our neighbour has pigeons and all the neighbours feed the birds with seed and peanuts, so the little rodents keep coming back, and appear to have made our composter one of their stops, and I can't trap or poison around it, so shooting would seem a likely alternative. Has a mound behind with decent stopping potential, so a safe shot, and a small shotgun round would be unlikely to summon the police as it's quite noisy here with building work going on during the day, a couple of doors away. Decent airgun - at least a hundred, and won't use that much. .410 shotgun - 70 plus, and won't use much. 9mm shotgun - 80 plus, won't use much. .410 chamber insert - 40 new, less second hand, handy to have in gun bag with handful of carts for when people bring kids to the club, good for rats, doesn't take up cabinet space. I think if you go shooting any kind of shotgun in such a garden in town your going to get a visit and your ticket and guns removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) I think a 9mm rimfire might be OK, possibly a. 410 with 2" cartridges, depends on background noise and how careful I am. Am not in town as such, more a leafy suburb. Regularly use airguns in garden, unsuppressed, and no-one minds, also angle grind steel without complaint, so the occasional loud bang should be OK. Edited January 17, 2016 by tx4cabbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Put a silencer on .410 and use subsonic carts. I'd be using an air rifle at 40foot in a garden with vermin pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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