Beagle boy Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Evening lads, was wondering how you find out choke sizes in a none choke shotgun? I've got an old Baikel with two o/u barrels I can't see anything stamped on them for choke sizes one set of barrels is 24inches the other is 28 inches Cheers rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) The only sure way is an internal barrel micrometer, as used by gunshops and Gunsmiths. I did encounter a 2 barrel set on a Baikal many years ago and they were 1/2 and full on the 28" and I/C on both of the shorter barrels. Although chromed, they could have been altered. Edited January 21, 2016 by Westley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Set up a large piece of paper and shoot at from 20yrds and count the pellets in e 30 inch circle. Repeat at 5 yrd intervals up to 55yrds. Work out the percentages of shot in the 30 inch circles and compare your findings with the published choke specifications. Measurements of the bores are just a guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Set up a large piece of paper and shoot at from 20yrds and count the pellets in e 30 inch circle. Repeat at 5 yrd intervals up to 55yrds. Work out the percentages of shot in the 30 inch circles and compare your findings with the published choke specifications. Measurements of the bores are just a guide. A guide used daily by the gun trade though. Surely the pellet count will vary from cartridge brand to cartridge brand ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Surely the pellet count will vary from cartridge brand to cartridge brand ? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Set up a large piece of paper and shoot at from 20yrds and count the pellets in e 30 inch circle. Repeat at 5 yrd intervals up to 55yrds. Work out the percentages of shot in the 30 inch circles and compare your findings with the published choke specifications. Measurements of the bores are just a guide. So why do ALL manufacturers state restriction dimensions. They would never get all this data on the barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 So why do ALL manufacturers state restriction dimensions. They would never get all this data on the barrels. A full choke barrel is one that throws a full choke pattern. A half choke barrel is one that throws a half choke pattern........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Isn't a none multi choke gun, a fixed choke gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotguneddy Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 A full choke barrel is one that throws a full choke pattern. A half choke barrel is one that throws a half choke pattern........ U don't say, ur clued up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Choke is measured in thou of an inch and determined by the difference between the bore diameter and the muzzle constriction. A bore micrometer is the only way to measure it accurately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 You need one of those brass choke gauges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 know that you are asking about choke size but there are other considerations. I can remember the ads for these years ago in your the shooting times. I think that they were sold by sports marketing of Colchester Essex, (others can correct me if I'm wrong) I think that the shorter barrels were sold as skeet and skeet and the longer ones were 3/4 and full. The Baikal's were always heavy choked in comparison to an English game gun. They also had points for attaching a sling to carry the gun with. I know that it isn't much help but if you clean the barrels with a liquid cleaner so that they shine then you can get an idea of how much choke is in them by holding them up to the light and looking into them from the muzzle end in the inch or so of barrel. All of this is a bit irrelevant really. It all comes down to how you shoot with the gun and what type of shooting that you intend to use it for. If you're going to walk up, rough shoot, decoying, roosting or clays then I would use the shorter barrels and if I were wildfowling or using it on open ground with longer range targets I would use the longer ones. I know that you asked how to find the chokes but without measuring the barrels there is no real way. if the gun feels better and comes up well with one of the sets, then use that set. It all depends on how good a shot you are. If you put the lead on the target it don't matter what the choke is. look on YouTube video about gun mount and gun fitting so that you can find if the gun fits you. This is more important than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Baikal fixed choke 7nder over in 28inch barrels are ushally full n 3/4 or full n half the smaller set of barrels are mostly 1/4 n skeet or skeet n skeet or 1/4 n 1/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Baikal fixed choke 7nder over in 28inch barrels are ushally full n 3/4 or full n half the smaller set of barrels are mostly 1/4 n skeet or skeet n skeet or 1/4 n 1/4 Unless they have been reemed either take it to a smith or just shoot it and enjoy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Many people wish to know what choke their guns have, but do not have the time, money or resources to travel to a competent gunsmith to have the bore and choke constriction measured. SO here is the method to determine what choke your gun MAY have. Using your chosen cartridge that you favour and will be using , shoot at a piece of card or a pattern plate from a distance of a measured forty yards away. Scribe a 30 inch circle on the card or plate , with the most dense area of pattern centred. Once you have done this count the number of pellets within the 30" circle. Do this a few times and average out the number of strikes. Open up a few unfired cartridges and count how many pellets. Then divide the average number of strikes on your pattern plate into the total pellets in a cartridge and express this as a percentage , this will be your choke . At forty yards True Cylinder will be 40% 1/4 choke " " 55% 1/2 " " " 60% Modern powders and choke boring technology has improved so figures (percentages ) may be higher 3/4 " " " 65% But this gives you an idea and of course what you actually see with your own eyes will certainly aid confidence Full " " " 70% For many years Eley have published The Eley Hawk Shooters Diary will is full of useful data. Edited January 23, 2016 by Salopian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 You are spot on there Salopian these figures are still published in the Eley Hawk Diary, just had a look at them. There are two ways of looking at 'choke', one as a measurment or as you say above a percentage of shot within a given circel at a specified distance. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 know that you are asking about choke size but there are other considerations. I can remember the ads for these years ago in your the shooting times. I think that they were sold by sports marketing of Colchester Essex, (others can correct me if I'm wrong) I think that the shorter barrels were sold as skeet and skeet and the longer ones were 3/4 and full. The Baikal's were always heavy choked in comparison to an English game gun. They also had points for attaching a sling to carry the gun with. I know that it isn't much help but if you clean the barrels with a liquid cleaner so that they shine then you can get an idea of how much choke is in them by holding them up to the light and looking into them from the muzzle end in the inch or so of barrel. All of this is a bit irrelevant really. It all comes down to how you shoot with the gun and what type of shooting that you intend to use it for. If you're going to walk up, rough shoot, decoying, roosting or clays then I would use the shorter barrels and if I were wildfowling or using it on open ground with longer range targets I would use the longer ones. I know that you asked how to find the chokes but without measuring the barrels there is no real way. if the gun feels better and comes up well with one of the sets, then use that set. It all depends on how good a shot you are. If you put the lead on the target it don't matter what the choke is. look on YouTube video about gun mount and gun fitting so that you can find if the gun fits you. This is more important than anything. I think it really matters what the choke is. It needs to be sufficiently tight enough to kill/break the target at range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagle boy Posted January 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Thanks for all the info guys, I kills pigeons well enough when roosting so I'm not over worried about the chokes I was just wondering is all. I've only ever used it as a ruff shooting gun so left the shorter barrels on. My favourite shotgun if I'm honest. Thanks again lads Cheers rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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