kingo15 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Isla St Clair? Think she still lives in our village Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldivalloch Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 All joking aside though, isn't there a delicious irony in Australia's policy given the ethnic origins of many of the ancestors of the politicians who made this decision, and the circumstances under which they would have come to Australia - as people fleeing injustice / religious intolerance / persecution and /or seeking a better future for themselves and their families in the "New World"? I wonder how they would have felt if the indigenous peoples (the aborigines) had stopped them landing, rounded them up, and coralled them on an island..... Talk about "I'm all right cobber."!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 That`s no use unless we`re rebuilding Hadrian`s Wall and putting in passport control. The idea looks better all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 All joking aside though, isn't there a delicious irony in Australia's policy given the ethnic origins of many of the ancestors of the politicians who made this decision, and the circumstances under which they would have come to Australia - as people fleeing injustice / religious intolerance / persecution and /or seeking a better future for themselves and their families in the "New World"? I wonder how they would have felt if the indigenous peoples (the aborigines) had stopped them landing, rounded them up, and coralled them on an island..... Talk about "I'm all right cobber."!! If the aborigines had known what was going to happen next they probably would have. Its the Australian's knowledge of how they behaved towards their hosts that makes them wary of the same thing happening to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 All joking aside though, isn't there a delicious irony in Australia's policy given the ethnic origins of many of the ancestors of the politicians who made this decision, and the circumstances under which they would have come to Australia - as people fleeing injustice / religious intolerance / persecution and /or seeking a better future for themselves and their families in the "New World"? I wonder how they would have felt if the indigenous peoples (the aborigines) had stopped them landing, rounded them up, and coralled them on an island..... Talk about "I'm all right cobber."!! Many of the original "Settlers" were transported there after going through the Courts having been caught stealing or comitting other misdemeanors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 If the aborigines had known what was going to happen next they probably would have. Its the Australian's knowledge of how they behaved towards their hosts that makes them wary of the same thing happening to them And if it had been left to the Aborigines where would Aus be now, odds on it would still be a desolate waste with maybe zero population now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Many of the original "Settlers" were transported there after going through the Courts having been caught stealing or comitting other misdemeanors. Yep, my grandfather spent some time there, he thought it better to go of his own free will after having a bit of an "argument" with a copper (bit of a lad was grandfather). At least that way he could come back when he wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Northern Ireland. Such a racially tolerant island is begging for some dilution of the Proddie/Papist bickering with some peace-loving Islam. Back with the same old carp I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Here is the true face of Australia's immigration policy https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/asylum-seekers-and-refugees/publications/forgotten-children-national-inquiry-children A country built upon immigration, really should behave better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 One day, when it's too late it will dawn on you that it's the rich and shameless that have raped and pillaged and destroyed what was once a good country not the poor, unemployed, disabled or immigrants as you are being led to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) And if it had been left to the Aborigines where would Aus be now, odds on it would still be a desolate waste with maybe zero population now. Not much different then? instead a desolate waste with virtually zero population Edited February 4, 2016 by Vince Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Not much different then? a desolate waste with virtually zero population You could have a point there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 One day, when it's too late it will dawn on you that it's the rich and shameless that have raped and pillaged and destroyed what was once a good country not the poor, unemployed, disabled or immigrants as you are being led to believe. Yeah and what have the Romans ever done for us...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 The Aussies have it right, to get to them these migrants have gone through many other safe countries where they could have sought asylum. We should reject all asylum seekers because of the same fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Yep, very true. Just a simple question or two would solve it. "What was the last country you came through?" "France" "Are they at war or was your life in danger?" "No" "Bye bye"!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Can remeber when i was out there some immigrant ship was on fire and drifting not too far away from OZ they put the fire out and towed it back wher eit came from. No messing over there. Hell i even got deported from the place for overstaying my work visa by a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 This whole issue is not something that is ever going to go away. While there are poor countries and rich countries people will see a better life for themselves and try to get it. The people who go for it are the most adventurous and in terms of Darwinism its natural selection you could say. However, the world can't cope with mass movements of people and there lies the big problem. How are we to deter large numbers? Its the problem thats never going to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) This whole issue is not something that is ever going to go away. While there are poor countries and rich countries people will see a better life for themselves and try to get it. The people who go for it are the most adventurous and in terms of Darwinism its natural selection you could say. However, the world can't cope with mass movements of people and there lies the big problem. How are we to deter large numbers? Its the problem thats never going to end. It will go away if you tell them that the doors are now closed, no more being accepted, you have passed through several safe countries to get here, apply in one of those. Now may be the time to try some German style camps with added features, hell we have plenty of old military bases doing nothing, securely fenced, shove them in there, three plain meals a day, no money, no visitors, any valuables and cash over £250 to be seized and sold to pay for their accommodation, sexes to be strictly segregated, any pregnant women to be held on a floating hospital ship that is Panamanian registered in international waters so no claims of British citizenship can be made, all documentation to be seized and held securely, then secure flights made back to country of origin or nearest internationally declared safe country to their country of origin. Then perhaps they might stop! Edited February 5, 2016 by secretagentmole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Never mind the ones that want to come, what about the 5 million illegals already here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldivalloch Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 It will go away if you tell them that the doors are now closed, no more being accepted, you have passed through several safe countries to get here, apply in one of those. Now may be the time to try some German style camps with added features, hell we have plenty of old military bases doing nothing, securely fenced, shove them in there, three plain meals a day, no money, no visitors, any valuables and cash over £250 to be seized and sold to pay for their accommodation, sexes to be strictly segregated, any pregnant women to be held on a floating hospital ship that is Panamanian registered in international waters so no claims of British citizenship can be made, all documentation to be seized and held securely, then secure flights made back to country of origin or nearest internationally declared safe country to their country of origin. Then perhaps they might stop! You've either got a very trollish and distorted sense of humour or a deeply disturbed and disturbing attitude to your fellow human beings. Neither does you any credit whatsoever. Crawl back into your cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 This has had a fair airing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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