islandgun Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 anyone tried the insa turbo mud terrain tyres I just read a landrover blog about them and they look good, its for an old landcruiser plenty of off road and no forseeable motorways any good or bad comments please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky gipsy Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 I ran a series 3 Land Rover on Insa Turbo Saraha for a few years and found them very good off road and well mannered on tarmac (not too noisy, went in the direction I pointed them in on damp roads and pulled up well when needed). A friend of mine had them on his 90 too, and has chosen the Dakar pattern to replace them on his latest rebuild. I would have them on my Range Rover but didn't think the speed ratings matched up to its requirements. Good tyres for the money in my opinion. ATB S.G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 I won't buy them again. I have turbo rangers on my Toyota. They are ok, apart from the fact that one of the four I bought was almost impossible to balance. My mate at the tyre fitters told me steer clear in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Skinters Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 I looked into ordering these online and having my local tyre supplier fitting them. They refused to fit them as they're remoulds. In the end I went for BFG MT's again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 I have 12k on my rangers. They are fine on the road and fine off the road. They are heavy and a pain to balance. They aren't the best on road or off road, but they are fine. If you are only off road and want mud, then the mud tire are nice and chunky. I would use them. They are cheap so for lower miles I would get them again. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) I would not use a remould .all they are is worn out tyres that have had their life and just had a new tread strip glued on.your 4x4 is a heavy motor and you need good tyres on to keep you and others safe. Edited March 12, 2016 by bostonmick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 thanks for the replies men, much appreciated Im also looking at at the yokohama geolander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I would not use a remould .all they are is worn out tyres that have had their life and just had a new tread strip glued on.your 4x4 is a heavy motor and you need good tyres on to keep you and others safe. I thought it was common practice to remould aircraft tyres? And just think of the forces when landing a large jet. But I may be wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I had Insas on 3 diff trucks and apart from nearly running out of balancing weights couldn't fault them, never had a puncture and would take my truck anywhere, usually until it just bottomed out. Also at that price if you do hit something particularly pointy it won't make you cry. Saw a think in lr mag a few years ago about the manufacturing process as insa and it was pretty much as involved as making the tyre from new, only using an old carcass. And yes I think aircraft, and definitely hgv tyres are commonly remoulded so any be all that bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I thought it was common practice to remould aircraft tyres? And just think of the forces when landing a large jet. But I may be wrong? You are not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 thanks for the replies men, much appreciated Im also looking at at the yokohama geolander Had Geolanders fitted 3 years ago and still have 2 on the back of the Jeep now. Good all round tyre and behaves very well on road and only stuck the once when bellied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) I had Insas on 3 diff trucks and apart from nearly running out of balancing weights couldn't fault them, never had a puncture and would take my truck anywhere, usually until it just bottomed out. Also at that price if you do hit something particularly pointy it won't make you cry. Saw a think in lr mag a few years ago about the manufacturing process as insa and it was pretty much as involved as making the tyre from new, only using an old carcass. And yes I think aircraft, and definitely hgv tyres are commonly remoulded so any be all that bad! it was the manufacturing that impressed me. cutting the old rubber almost back to the rim. unlike lorry tyres which just have a new tread, they also pushed the recycling aspect. which appears to be a better idea than just dumping. I do like the tread on the insa and apart from the ocassional trip to Inverness the roads on Harris are more like green laning. however the safety of my family is the most important part which was why I wondered if anyone had ever been let down by them cheers everyone IG Edited March 13, 2016 by islandgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Must have been near enough the same story, I had the Rangers and they were probably 50:50 A-road commute and some fairly hard off road around the shoot. For the price I couldn't complain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I would not use a remould .all they are is worn out tyres that have had their life and just had a new tread strip glued on.your 4x4 is a heavy motor and you need good tyres on to keep you and others safe. I thought a lot of lorry and agricultural tyres were remoulds? There are Insa turbo tyres on my Jimny and they are fine, nothing special. I had Geolanders on the Rav4 and found them to be a great tyre in most conditions, I'd have them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I thought a lot of lorry and agricultural tyres were remoulds? There are Insa turbo tyres on my Jimny and they are fine, nothing special. I had Geolanders on the Rav4 and found them to be a great tyre in most conditions, I'd have them again. And buses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I have seen remould being done for trucks and vans.mostly in old farm buildings by people who's only concern was as much profit as possible. As for aircraft I would say they go through many checks before being passed fit to go again.and I wonder what the percentage is that get rejected.the remould tyres on our tipper are there because it runs into a landfill site every day and on average last about eight to ten weeks.but if saving a few pounds is your main concern go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I have seen remould being done for trucks and vans.mostly in old farm buildings by people who's only concern was as much profit as possible. As for aircraft I would say they go through many checks before being passed fit to go again.and I wonder what the percentage is that get rejected.the remould tyres on our tipper are there because it runs into a landfill site every day and on average last about eight to ten weeks.but if saving a few pounds is your main concern go for it. That isnt my concern I would happily pay twice as much for a tyre if it was proven to have a good tread, which is the reason I like/d the insa (deep tread) I write this because my wife recently went off roading in an inappropiate place in my ex- shogun and Im cooking the dinner until the plaster comes off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I have seen remould being done for trucks and vans.mostly in old farm buildings by people who's only concern was as much profit as possible. As for aircraft I would say they go through many checks before being passed fit to go again.and I wonder what the percentage is that get rejected.the remould tyres on our tipper are there because it runs into a landfill site every day and on average last about eight to ten weeks.but if saving a few pounds is your main concern go for it. Maybe have a look at this ? http://www.michelintruck.com/tires-and-retreads/retreads/michelin-retread-technologies/ Lots of truck tyres are remoulded or remixed, by very reputable companies. Same with car and 4x4 tyres. You're confusing back street remoulders with top name businesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Maybe have a look at this ? http://www.michelintruck.com/tires-and-retreads/retreads/michelin-retread-technologies/ Lots of truck tyres are remoulded or remixed, by very reputable companies. Same with car and 4x4 tyres. You're confusing back street remoulders with top name businesses. Thank you.i did not realise they fitted the £60 or £70 insa remould to 747s and the like.the tyres in your video are a million miles away from the cheap car and 4x4 tyres on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldweld Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Insa is a very big concern in Spain, tyres disposal is a very big problem for all of us and recycling is the future ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Thank you.i did not realise they fitted the £60 or £70 insa remould to 747s and the like.the tyres in your video are a million miles away from the cheap car and 4x4 tyres on this thread. Not so far as you may think. Jumbo jet is what, 300 / 400 tons landing at 150mph (could be way out here), truck is 44t at 56mph, 4x4 is average 1500kg and remoulds are speed rated at 70 mph if I remember correctly. Hence, jumbo tyres = mega bucks, truck tyres quite expensive, 4x4 tyres cheap. It's all about the rubber used and the time it takes to prepare them, big strong tyre £££££££££, small tyre £££. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Skinters Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I like the aggressive pattern of the Insa and I was almost certainly going to order a set. But after a chat with the owner of the tyre fitters I regularly use I was put off. He wasn't trying to sell me an alternative and he didn't specifically single these out but I wondered if he'd had a bad experience with remoulds in the past and it was now company policy to refuse to fit remoulds. There has always been the old urban myths about remoulds shedding their tread, but I would think technology and modern safety standards have moved on enough to prevent this nowadays. However, the fact this guy is in the trade and obviously knows his onions was the clincher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 I've worked with a company that manufactures tyre testing equipment specifically for remoulds and retreading. The tyre has to be tested before and after retreading. All remoulds have to be type approved and 'E' marked since 2004. Despite public perception that remanufactured tyres do not perform as well as new tyres, UK-based insurance actuaries working in the vehicle insurance sector do not discriminate against the use of retreaded tyres. There is no reliable evidence to suggest remanufactured tyres are inferior to new units. Of the approximately 34 million tyres annually reaching their ‘end-of-life’ in the UK, only about 6.5m are suitable for retreading. Suitable tyres are inspected by eye and X-rays to ensure the fabric and structure of the tyre is sound. The tyres are then further tested by tactile inspection, ultrasonic testing and laser shearography It all comes down to whatever makes you happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypaint Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 There is a difference between a remould and a retred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 There is a difference but it is not what most people think it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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