fern01 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Prime Minister of Hungary Orban's historic speech on You Tube puts EU and Immigration into perspective. There are English sub titles. Sorry but I can't add the link but if anyone can help me out I would be gratefull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 This one? For future reference, all you have to do is copy the Youtube link and then paste it into your post here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern01 Posted March 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 This one? For future reference, all you have to do is copy the Youtube link and then paste it into your post here. Thanks DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks DM No probs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simjakcal Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 A true Leader talking sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Yep, what he says is all true. He puts his case together well. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) A good statement but IS Hungary putting in place a timetable for when it is going to leave the EU? If you look at the crowd in the background whilst he is making the speech The majority are just chatting with others and not really paying attention to the speaker. This is the same as over here. If you ask most people what they think about us leaving or staying in the EU they just say that they don't know what it is about. What We need is a Winston Churchill type to really get up and tell it how it is. We on here mainly seem to want out but the general public don't come on here. Does anyone use other types of forum where there is a strong feeling for staying or leaving? What do the poles like Mori say? What is the betting forecast? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11617702/poll.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3507007/Brexit-support-surging-Mail-poll-shows-Shift-11-points-turn-year-leaves-vote-knife-edge-despite-dire-warnings-Remain-campaigners.html https://m.oddschecker.com/t/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/referendum-on-eu-membership-result What do the betting odds mean? I'm not a betting man so it is all mumbo jumbo to me. Edited March 26, 2016 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDS Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 At the moment the bookies are giving odds on to stay They usually get it right...I hope not http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/referendum-on-eu-membership-result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 At the moment the bookies are giving odds on to stay They usually get it right...I hope not http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/referendum-on-eu-membership-result Remember the odds the bookies gave for a Conservative win in the last election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Look up the new Kiwi flag referendum. The status quo usually wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 This is why the out campaign really needs a Winston Churchill type to get up there on a soapbox and rouse the undecided. I can't understand the royal's not getting in on this one. If we become a minor member of Europe like a county they will be sidelined out of the frame. Job title >> celebrity royal and supermarket opener. Still perhaps that's what they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 A true Leader talking sense +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincs1963 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 A very measured and well put together speech, I wonder what sort of a reaction that sort of speech would have over here if we had a politician with the cojones to deliver and mean it? They sound like the words of a man with his nations future in mind, not just looking to secure his own political future. We need our own Orban here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Orban is a corrupt leader of a corrupt regime. He said once watch what I'm doing, not what I'm talking about. This speech is aimed for the hungarian voters, to gain votes. He uses the whole migration situation for his own political interest, while steailing lots/majority of EU funds. Your tax money. My tax money. I'm hungarian, I know. Y A very measured and well put together speech, I wonder what sort of a reaction that sort of speech would have over here if we had a politician with the cojones to deliver and mean it? They sound like the words of a man with his nations future in mind, not just looking to secure his own political future. We need our own Orban here. You are so wrong with your second to last sentence. We call him Victator.... Edited March 26, 2016 by londonercsecse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Orban is a corrupt leader of a corrupt regime. He said once watch what I'm doing, not what I'm talking about. This speach is aimed for the hungarian voters, to gain votes. He uses the whole migration situation for his own political interest, while steailing lots/majority of EU funds. Your tax money. My tax money. I'm hungarian, I know. Y You are so wrong with your second to last sentence. We call him Victator.... Whats new there. Isn't there a load of corruption in the EU anyway? The French farmers milk the system and every country has some blattent fiddle going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 He also does enough of his own cross border meddling. I've just googled the loon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 The level of corruption. That is new. He is a totalitarian leader in the making. Like A.H. in the early days. Has changed the constituion 4-5 times according to his political interest. You can't win any EU project as a normal guy, it is all sorted out for his family/friends/old school mates, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Also at this speech, 3000 of the spectators were polish to boost the numbers of the audience, organised trip from Poland. They don't speak hungarian. Edited March 26, 2016 by londonercsecse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Here is one for example in english. http://www.direkt36.hu/en/2015/11/18/huracuppant-brusszel-orban-vejenek-ugyeire/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Also at this speech, 3000 of the spectators were polish to boost the numbers of the audience, organised trip from Poland. They don't speak hungarian. That explains why the people in the background weren't taking much interested in what he was saying. They were all immigrants and didn't understand what he was on about. I'm not sure of the implications of that in regards to what he was saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 For some reason I look and think this I'm not saying he's wrong and far from it . I can just see history repeating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Another one: http://www.direkt36.hu/en/2015/02/26/orban-ot-eve-harcol-az-eu-val-legszukebb-kore-addig-gazdagodott-belole/. Won't post any more, because it would be boring to repeat the same pattern.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Also at this speech, 3000 of the spectators were polish to boost the numbers of the audience, organised trip from Poland. They don't speak hungarian. How ironic. Immigrants being used to make a case against immigration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 A man who refuses to bow down to the EU's bullying, and Merkel's forced migration policy. A man who sends the weak, liberal, chattering classes scurrying to their nearest 'safe space'. What's not to like? I believe Mr Orban is planning to hold a referendum on whether Hungary should accept the quota of refugees imposed on them by Brussels. As the politicians like to say 'I think that's the right thing to do'. After all it's the people who will have to live with the consequences of the proposed quota, not the politicians. It's time politicians realised they work solely in the interests of the people they were elected to represent. Mr Orban seems to grasp this, it's a pity Dave the Unready hasn't quite grasped this fundamental element of democracy yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 A very measured and well put together speech, I wonder what sort of a reaction that sort of speech would have over here if we had a politician with the cojones to deliver and mean it? Probably be arrested for inciting racial hatred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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