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Pah,

 

Socialist, Marxist, Communist...all different cheeks of the same ****.

 

You only have to look at the company he keeps, and those he chooses to support to see why he gets a hard time from the media.

I'd be more than happy to see a strong opposition to hold the government to account, but come on, apart from his rag tag band of ne'er do wells and proscribed terrorist organisations who does he actually represent?

 

 

Pootang, look at the company your avatar pitchure keeps, Kipper MEP's in the same grouping as Hungarian fascists.

 

As for having same views as Corbin, if you mean been against imperialist wars, believing society should look out for those most at need, against establishment cover ups and that we achieve more as a society working together rather than against each other, then yes I have the same views as him.

 

Don`t stoop as low as those who use bad company fallacies in any form of argument. His first move was to attack the man and his ideologies and yes, he got them wrong but who cares if we are ranting?

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redogi73, on 03 May 2016 - 08:39 AM, said:

As for having same views as Corbin, if you mean been against imperialist wars, believing society should look out for those most at need, against establishment cover ups and that we achieve more as a society working together rather than against each other, then yes I have the same views as him.

 

Terrorist-supporting, Marxist, silver-spoon liberal like the rest of the North London Labour mob is an equally valid description.

 

As for cover-ups. look at the way his team have moved to fix the PLP to stop any dissent against their pogrom.

 

By the way, "working together" means paying to support their core voters - idle and entitled whingers.

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How can someone be a Marxist and a liberal? Too diametrically opposed political ideologies, however have some sympathy with the north London comment, but the has moved from the Blarite policies which is dominant amongst that group.

 

Stopping dessent in the PLP, seriously, he's got more to fear from his own back stabbing backbenchers than the Tories!

 

Working together I meant as a society rather than individualistic sod everyone mentality that is dominant at the minute.

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Don`t stoop as low as those who use bad company fallacies in any form of argument. His first move was to attack the man and his ideologies and yes, he got them wrong but who cares if we are ranting?

 

It's a statement of well documented fact, not fallacy, the company that Corbyn keeps.

 

And yes, I do attack him and his ideologies, and for good reason. When his rallies are full of those who follow the likes of Stalin, Lenin and Mao, some of the biggest mass murderers in history, it doesn't sit well with me. Maybe you're ok with that?

Would it be acceptable for the so called 'far right' parties to parade with banners depicting Hitler, Mosley and Mussolini?

Don't kid yourself that the militant left that Corbyn represents is any less dangerous than any of the above despots. They're just as nasty.

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Pootang, look at the company your avatar pitchure keeps, Kipper MEP's in the same grouping as Hungarian fascists.

 

As for having same views as Corbin, if you mean been against imperialist wars, believing society should look out for those most at need, against establishment cover ups and that we achieve more as a society working together rather than against each other, then yes I have the same views as him.

Sometimes, and I don't mean this sarcastically, it really amazes me how someone who's obviously not thick as two short planks can be so gullible :hmm: Just what do you see in him because we see a bloke that wants to open the doors to whoever wants to come in, who wants us (workers) to pay health bills for the worlds poor, who wants to give our country away and who associates with the worlds terrorists.

What do you see??

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redogi73, on 03 May 2016 - 7:09 PM, said:

How can someone be a Marxist and a liberal? Too diametrically opposed political ideologies, however have some sympathy with the north London comment, but the has moved from the Blarite policies which is dominant amongst that group.

 

Stopping dessent in the PLP, seriously, he's got more to fear from his own back stabbing backbenchers than the Tories!

 

Working together I meant as a society rather than individualistic sod everyone mentality that is dominant at the minute.

 

The PLP is the Parliamentary Labour Party.

 

Working together means working to support the Corbyn Manifesto. The country already pulls together as a society, what with taxes, central & local government. Where the Tories differ is that they want to clear the massive debt run up by past Labour showers of jobbie governments so we don't do a Greece/Ireland/Portugal in the future.

 

Still, Corbyn's too busy getting the IRA, PLO, Hammas and his other friends round the table to worry about the UK economy. Perhaps the KKK are free to join him next time...

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big winners from the elections this week the liberal party :whistling: Labour under Corbyn is a mess it will run its course and return to a more center left position, UKIP under NF is worse than Labour they have also become a tired joke god knows the man has one main platform agenda leaving the EU and the grownups running the leave campaign wont let him near the place because he will turn people away and he knows it, just like Corbyn affiliated with dodgy extremist groups

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Its not that difficult in politics to just adopt a patronisingly cynical tone and look down your nose at everybody else's efforts and policies. That doesn't actually mean you have any ideas of your own. Our Jeremy has made a good living out of doing just that for many years. Never had to shed a drop of sweat or get his hands dirty. More to the point he has never made a positive contribution to any debate. He has always been a critic, a whinger standing outside the tent peeing in.

 

Self congratulatory protest meetings are one thing, leading a party is quite another.

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Its not that difficult in politics to just adopt a patronisingly cynical tone and look down your nose at everybody else's efforts and policies. That doesn't actually mean you have any ideas of your own. Our Jeremy has made a good living out of doing just that for many years. Never had to shed a drop of sweat or get his hands dirty. More to the point he has never made a positive contribution to any debate. He has always been a critic, a whinger standing outside the tent peeing in.

 

Self congratulatory protest meetings are one thing, leading a party is quite another.

 

Wow that sums him up to a tee, so well worded. Thanks for that.

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Its not that difficult in politics to just adopt a patronisingly cynical tone and look down your nose at everybody else's efforts and policies. That doesn't actually mean you have any ideas of your own. Our Jeremy has made a good living out of doing just that for many years. Never had to shed a drop of sweat or get his hands dirty. More to the point he has never made a positive contribution to any debate. He has always been a critic, a whinger standing outside the tent peeing in.

 

Self congratulatory protest meetings are one thing, leading a party is quite another.

Well said.
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It's a statement of well documented fact, not fallacy, the company that Corbyn keeps.

 

And yes, I do attack him and his ideologies, and for good reason. When his rallies are full of those who follow the likes of Stalin, Lenin and Mao, some of the biggest mass murderers in history, it doesn't sit well with me. Maybe you're ok with that?

Would it be acceptable for the so called 'far right' parties to parade with banners depicting Hitler, Mosley and Mussolini?

Don't kid yourself that the militant left that Corbyn represents is any less dangerous than any of the above despots. They're just as nasty.

 

No I meant that it is a fallacy to say that someone is as bad as the company they keep in an argument/discussion. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies /10/Ad_Hominem_Guilt_by_Association

Hope that helps you work out the fallacy in your argument.

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No I meant that it is a fallacy to say that someone is as bad as the company they keep in an argument/discussion. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies /10/Ad_Hominem_Guilt_by_Association

Hope that helps you work out the fallacy in your argument.

 

No, not really.

 

As I stated in my original post, it's the company he keeps, and those he supports.

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Is there anybody even remotely suitable for the job? I seriously can't think of a single candidate in the Labour ranks that I would trust to run a chip shop much less lead Her Majesty's Opposition.

 

Given his oration during the debate on Syria, Hillary Ben could well be in the running. :hmm:

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Yes really! It is both, not one or the other, so it is still fallacious

 

What are you on about?

 

I'm assuming you understand the meaning of the word fallacious?

In which case perhaps you could explain how the argument of Corbyns preferred company and supported causes is in any way fallacious?

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What are you on about?

 

I'm assuming you understand the meaning of the word fallacious?

In which case perhaps you could explain how the argument of Corbyns preferred company and supported causes is in any way fallacious?

 

Knob shaped?!!!

Sums Jezza up nicely.

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What are you on about?

 

I'm assuming you understand the meaning of the word fallacious?

In which case perhaps you could explain how the argument of Corbyns preferred company and supported causes is in any way fallacious?

 

Do you understand the meaning of fallacious?

 

 

based on a mistaken belief.
"fallacious arguments"

synonyms: erroneous, false, untrue, wrong, incorrect, faulty, flawed, inaccurate, inexact, imprecise, mistaken, misinformed, misguided, misleading, deceptive, delusive, delusory, illusory, sophistic, specious, fictitious, spurious, fabricated, distorted, made up, trumped up;

 

Are you perhaps thinking of Phallus?

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Do you understand the meaning of fallacious?

 

 

based on a mistaken belief.

"fallacious arguments"

synonyms: erroneous, false, untrue, wrong, incorrect, faulty, flawed, inaccurate, inexact, imprecise, mistaken, misinformed, misguided, misleading, deceptive, delusive, delusory, illusory, sophistic, specious, fictitious, spurious, fabricated, distorted, made up, trumped up;

 

Are you perhaps thinking of Phallus?

Think I could go with knob shaped to describe his though processes. Jeremy has a medical problem, there is a knob on both ends of his willy!

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