Arable verses crops

[Gunnut]

Have at last secured a permission on 500 acres of arable farm land for pigeon shooting, It's a 2 hour drive and I was wondering has it is arable land would this ground be suitable for pigeon shooting has no crops are grown.

[JimLondon]

Arable land means crops are grown.

[FalconFN]

I assume you mean it's pasture as arable means it is growing crops.

 

If so then pigeons do feed on clover and if large numbers are present then they can be an agricultural past, but if there are surrounding farms with cereals, rape etc then you'll probably not find many where you are. Rabbits, however, could well be a bigger problem for the farmer.

[johnphilip]

Arable means its land that you can grow crops on :-):-)

[Greenhunter]

Or to put it another way...if it's just all grass then it's PASTURE and not ARABLE.

Pasture won't produce much pigeon shooting unless there are flight lines to crops nearby or, as said, clover is sometimes the food of choice

but you will find that it's a case of being in the right place at the right time.

 

 

GH

[johnphilip]

And when is a tractor not a tractor.? when it turns into a field lol

[bostonmick]

I have arable land .and some of this is put over to growing hay,you see hay is a crop and not just grass that is allowed to grow,as for is it viable for pigeon shooting I would say no.not in any numbers to make it worth while.

[robbiep]

Technically, arable land is capable of being ploughed and tilled. As Mick says, some arable land is used as pasture though.

[scotslad]

Possibly the above is a true defination (but i've seen plenty of hill ground reclaimed so ploughed/tilled it will never be arable)

 

In all the years working around agriculture i've never heard of a field of grass (pasture) being described as arable, but mibee thats just a local thing.

 

Generally arable= crops

Pasture =grass and silage/hay

[panoma1]

Possibly the above is a true defination, I've never heard of a field of grass (pasture) being described as arable, but mibee thats just a local thing.

 

Generally arable= crops

Pasture =grass and silage/hay

Me too!

[LeadWasp]

Have at last secured a permission on 500 acres of arable farm land for pigeon shooting, It's a 2 hour drive and I was wondering has it is arable land would this ground be suitable for pigeon shooting has no crops are grown.

If it is pasture and there's clover then you'll get lots of pidgy widge although possibly earlier in the year when the grass starts to move.

Edited June 14, 2016 by LeadWasp

[bostonmick]

If it's designated pasture then you cannot just plough and put it to cereals or veg you have to get permission. If it's designated arable you can set it to grass for hay as a crop in its own right.i rotate mine back into cereals every five years. We recently purchased some pasture and to be honest it was a expensive job trying to get it released and even then we never got all we wanted back to arable.

[srspower]

If the pasture gets cut you will see a lot of crows on it shortly afterwards otherwise that is rabbit territory.

Edited June 18, 2016 by srspower

[scotslad]

If it's designated pasture then you cannot just plough and put it to cereals or veg you have to get permission. If it's designated arable you can set it to grass for hay as a crop in its own right.i rotate mine back into cereals every five years. We recently purchased some pasture and to be honest it was a expensive job trying to get it released and even then we never got all we wanted back to arable.

 

Wot do u mean?? I've never ever heard of farmers getting permission to do anything like that before.

If u want to plough ur field u just plough it and put wot ever u want in it and then eb=nter it in to ur ISAC's form

[bostonmick]

I will get onto natural England first thing Monday morning and demand my money back.and I am sure the others I know who have been through it will also look forward to their refunds.

[bostonmick]

 

Wot do u mean?? I've never ever heard of farmers getting permission to do anything like that before.

If u want to plough ur field u just plough it and put wot ever u want in it and then eb=nter it in to ur ISAC's form

 

I don't know how to do all that paste thing to put the links on here,but if you google farmers weekly,and the rules on ploughing up grassland it may explain a few things to you.atb

[scotslad]

I'll ask some of the farmers i work for but never ever heard of that before.

At minutate there all moaning about the new sub rules if u have over 70acres of crops or grass under 5 years (must count as arable/crop for subsidy rules) u have to leave set aside areas, but i

[hushpower]

Keep an eye out when hes cut the grass for hay or silage the pigeon will be down for the seeds