EU referendum

[rodp]

To suggest we would never want to rejoin is a little naive. We cannot even agree how a Britain will begin to leave let alone what subsequent trade deals we will have or what the national and international economic situation will be in 10, 20, 30, 40 or 50 years will be like.

They know full well how to leave, and let's be honest so do we. Once we've said "we're off" we can leave any way we want to, assuming the government actually have the backbone to do it. Trade will not be affected long term, short term (very) it will just out of spite. Cameron and co will be absolutely gutted if we vote out, that's all the plans for their future income out the window. Career politicians only know one way to make a living, nose in the trough. And unfortunately they seem to be conning a large percentage of the population that they have their best interests at heart. It's really quite sad how they've suckered the soft and gullible.

[Savhmr]

To suggest we would never want to rejoin is a little naive. We cannot even agree how a Britain will begin to leave let alone what subsequent trade deals we will have or what the national and international economic situation will be in 10, 20, 30, 40 or 50 years will be like.

 

No, it is not. To suggest that we would ever consider rejoining an EU in its present corrupt and undemocratic state is naive. It is a ship not for turning, unaccountable, wasteful and whose economy overall is shrinking in global terms. It is having to shore up member states who were admitted with fudge factors in place and we're all paying for that. Migration and free borders are an essential part of the treaty as the EC want to reform the EU as one singular country with one fighting force and one currency, yet it has proven an un-mitigated disaster in terms of humanitarian cost for those entering from outside the EU and a disaster for monetary policy within the EU, because those flooding out of their own countries for our shores or Germany are leaving behind an even larger black hole and reduced taxation that we will end up having to pay for.

 

Why on Gods good green earth would we for one nano-second ever consider rejoining such a massively flawed organisation, a failed experiment and something that could well spark off major unrest within its own ranks? It would be cultural, political and economic suicide.

Edited June 20, 2016 by Savhmr

[Lloyd90]

I hope the whole thing falls apart ,

 

Then WE can start our own, new EU with us at the top and the rest can do as they are told 😂😂😂 Germany and France would be fuming 😂😂😂

[safc1973]

Well like many on here I made my mind up some time back, however I do have one (unanswerable) question, if this country votes to 'remain' will the UK eventually be swallowed up into a Europe superstate, euros in yer pocket the lot?

 

Soooo.... If you had the chance to ask a question to both the IN and OUT camps leaders what would that question be?

 

Ps I believe the answer to my question to be yes, sadly.

Going back to the original post my questions would be -

 

to David Cameron - "If you were a stockbroker like your father was, would you recommend your clients invest their money in a company that hadnt had its accounts approved for twenty years?"

 

to Nigel Farage - "Do you want a pint?"

[sitsinhedges]

Just think of the millions that failed politician Kinnock and family have made thanks to the EU, then vote out as quickly as possible.

[fortune]

I just posted this on another thread also. >> The only problem is that most of the posters on PW are outers. We must try to convert the dis believers and bring them into the fold. Get involved in other social media sites and spread the word before it is too late. Preferably in a couple of sentences.

[Danger-Mouse]

 

This article sums up the legality of what Dave negotiated.

 

https://fullfact.org/europe/explaining-eu-deal-it-legally-binding/

 

https://fullfact.org/media/uploads/Will-the-EU-deal-stick-2.png

[12gauge82]

My question to the in campaigning politicians would be, how stupid do you think the British people are? They're not going to scare me into voting in, they fooled the population with their lies in the 70s, how it was nothing to do with sovereignty but a simple trade agreement etc, well there's an old saying, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

[ShootingEgg]

Thats easy to say with no evidence a statement in itself worth nothing.

 

Its worth more in than out and the restriction of benefits to migrants (another of the pledges) was backed by the EU court of justice last week.

Errm did you not see QT last night, even Dave said its not been agreed!! that deal has NOT been signed off!!!

[oowee]

To suggest we would never want to rejoin is a little naive. We cannot even agree how a Britain will begin to leave let alone what subsequent trade deals we will have or what the national and international economic situation will be in 10, 20, 30, 40 or 50 years will be like.

Never say never with these things. Especially with economic meltdown in the US and the rise of China and India and even a reformist EU. The clear thing in politics is change what goes around comes around.

 

Errm did you not see QT last night, even Dave said its not been agreed!! that deal has NOT been signed off!!!

Its not all signed off but this bit is agreed with the courts. All things can change life is not static. Even if its signed off it can change.