Lincoln vs beretta

[Fredwalton]

I have been looking at a couple of guns the first is a Lincoln premier gold brand new the second is a beretta 867 second hand. Both multi choke and both 28 inch barrels. They are similarly priced. I have wanted a beretta for some time now but also like the Lincoln. Would be grateful of people thoughts. I have seen the Lincoln and the beretta is over the Internet as the shop is miles away from.

 

Thanks

[BrowningB525]

The beretta will hold its value.

 

You can't really go wrong with browning or beretta to be fair.

[Westward]

What's your intended use? Beretta's last pretty much for ever because they're designed to be easily re jointed after very high volume use and that's partly why they hold value. By comparison the Lincoln is a budget gun intended for lower volume use such as club clay shooting and/or field shooting.

[Fredwalton]

I do mainly pigeon shooting but not as much as I would like. A couple of game days if I'm lucky and the odd clay shoot now and then

[snow white]

Got to lincons the premier and the jubilee gold prestege fantastic guns for the price.

[Wilksy II]

Arn't all new guns made on CNC machines now?new parts for a Lincoln should be fine

[dougall]

have had both(in 20g).Lincoln was a good solid gun.In the case of the one I had it was a gun I regret selling.Is it as good as SP no not as well finished,will it hold its value as well no..especially as in buying new you are 20% vat + dealers margin..

[Savhmr]

Had a Lincoln Premier Gold (Game) before the Silver Pigeon. The Lincoln was ok, it didn't handle as well, wasn't as nicely balanced and there were a few things I disliked about the action but it was an ok gun for the money. The Beretta is by far the better shooting gun imho, but at close to twice the price, I'd expect nothing less. I'd say any good quality used Beretta or Miroku would be a better bet than Lincoln Premier. They're an ok budget gun, reasonably well made but I wouldn't go back to one having shot one for 10 years

Edited July 20, 2016 by Savhmr

[Canis]

The beretta will last a lifetime if well maintained and will hold the value that you pay for it if you keep it 10 years you may even find the sale price goes up !

 

The lincoln will loose half its value with the first shot fired and will be a "zombie killer special" as wabbitbosher would call it if you sold it in 10 years time.

[Savhmr]

The beretta will last a lifetime if well maintained and will hold the value that you pay for it if you keep it 10 years you may even find the sale price goes up !

 

The lincoln will loose half its value with the first shot fired and will be a "zombie killer special" as wabbitbosher would call it if you sold it in 10 years time.

 

Not so. I sold my Lincoln for very good money. I think I paid £750 when it first made an appearance over a decade back, and I did look after it well, stripped and oiled the sock properly, always kept it clean etc. It fired thousands of rounds over those years. I got £480 for it 10 years later, so it cost me less than £30 per year, or less than half the cost of BASC membership, put another way. That's not bad value in anyone's language.

 

I've probably lost more money on my Silver Pigeon (bought new) in the last 3 years but it will hold a higher residual value in 10 years simply because of popularity and because it cost twice as much to begin with.

Edited July 20, 2016 by Savhmr

[Cambsman]

You get what you pay for in life. Guns are no different. Both are fine and will serve you well. One will probably have more resale value in the future. But will you ever sell it? Get the one you fancy!

[welshwarrior]

Personnal the beretta is more reliable and better design that the fair action.

[Alycidon]

687 every time. A far better built and nicer handling gun.

 

A ( 687 owner )

[ChrisAsh]

Do you really think that after making shotguns for a hundred odd years that any make these days will not last a lifetime

 

As mentioned above a Sub £1000 gun will lose money over the years but looking at gun trader so will many Big Makes guns over £1600 new and going by many guns held on here, it seems few change guns very often

 

You pay the money and probably get a better gun but that's also the same from a basic Big Make to their next range of guns after all you would not compare a silver pigeon to a DT11

 

Just buy what you like and enjoy, also check how good the back up service is, as some makes seem to take months to get sorted, from the big makes if something is wrong and needs returning going by reports on this forum

[Scully]

Nephew had a Lincoln Premier Prestige Gold in 20 bore some years ago. It was made by FAIR and distributed by Nickersons(?). It was a very nice gun and well made, but they don't have the following of the popular makes such as Beretta, Miroku or Browning so aren't as desirable and don't hold their value as well as those leading brands.

If you're not bothered about resale values then there's nothing wrong with the Lincoln.

[Old Boggy]

I've had a couple of second hand Lincolns in my time and had no problems whatsoever, loved them and got a reasonable trade in price when selling.

As had been said previously, if you like the gun, whether Beretta or Lincoln, it fits ( or have it fitted) and you shoot well with it, then IMHO either make will serve you well.

 

Best of luck with your choice and ultimate purchase.

 

OB

[Savhmr]

The fit is more important imho than the badge, but the low profile action of the Beretta was worth the additional cost too for the improvement it made to balance and swing. Handling, as far as I'm concerned, is on equal terms with fit, so for my money, the Beretta bettered my Lincoln Premier in that respect. Build quality wise, there isn't a lot in it. As has already been said, most mass produced shot guns are up there these days and well made. My only gripe with the metal on the action of the Lincoln was that underneath the action below the hinge, the tongue of the base on the action did get a little chewed up which I was surprised at. Fettled it with a jewellers file in the end as it was annoying me. Also, the lever never went back to the middle but sat off centre. I know that a lot are like that, but it niggled too. It wasn't as smooth opening as the Beretta either.

 

The Beretta by comparison is better in all of those respects. The engraving on both was what you'd expect from a mass produced item and probably part laser etched and part stamped or machined. Gold plating on the Lincoln trigger was window dressing and wore off with use. The wood on the Beretta was better quality too, at least on mine. It's all very well for some people to argue that all shotguns under say £2K will do the job equally well or all are just as good as one another, but that's not my finding. The little improvements in details of design and handling matter and you do tend to get what you pay for. Buying used is a different matter and I'd have no hesitation in buying a 30 year old Miroku or higher grade browning as I know they're made for a lifetime of reliable use and £1000 buys a heck of a lot of used 30 year old shotgun these days. Getting one that fits is another matter, you just have to try as many as you can or have then adjusted. If buying another, I wouldn't buy new again. You get far more for your money with a used shotgun.