Rimfireboy Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Short range pest control ammo for the .22 rimfire can add to the guns versatility, but are they really any good? Only way to find out is to do a bit of a test. I was using rws flobert caps with 16 grain conical bullets. Five shots over the chrono ranged from 878fps to 911fps giving 27.39 to 29.49 ft lbs energy at the muzzle, offering similar performance but not consistency, to many fac air rifles. Accuracy though, won't match the fac air rifle at any great distance. I couldn't get them to group at less than an inch beyond 15 yards.The circle on the blue target is 5p size. I also put some Winchester Super X .22 shot shells over the chrono. They achieved a fairly consistent velocity ranging from 1149fps to 1163fps from my 14 inch barrelled rifle. I patterned them at 3,5 and 8 yards, and I think that's about the maximum useful range judging by the patterns they threw from a rifled barrel. I'd stick to five yards or less really. Should be ok for shooting small rodents in buildings etc, but not much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 You have too much time on your hands . But contact me if you fancy a day's driven Bumble Bee's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammo Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 CCI CB Long go well for me, 32 ft/lb and accurate enough out to 30m. Hammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Ideal for rating, CB caps might group good enough for close range rats at typical air rifle ratting ranges, As you say it just adds to the versatility of the old .22LR. Thats got to be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 As a matter of interest how do you find the caps load/cycle in the magazine or do you load individually? I have a few caps left somewhere, but haven't used them for years (actually I haven't seen any for years either), always had issues with cycling them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 As a matter of interest how do you find the caps load/cycle in the magazine or do you load individually? I have a few caps left somewhere, but haven't used them for years (actually I haven't seen any for years either), always had issues with cycling them! Yes, regarding the magazine feeding them Dekers, I haven't actually tried, but I wouldn't expect many shots before a jam with the caps. I've got a single shot adapter that slots in place of the magazine, It's easy to roll a cap into the groove and either thumb it into the breach or use the bolt to slide it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Sorry to open an old thread. Been playing with some CB caps today. They don't feed from the magazine (or the one I designed and 3D printed) but just using an empty magazine as a SS adaptor works fine. However, they don't extract (Sako P94S) without pressing hard on the extractor claw with a screwdriver so they're an absolute pain. Haven't tried the CCI ones but they look like they'd feed better. It's a shame they're not as accurate as an FAC air rifle, though - I wonder why that is? Surely there's a place in the market for a super quiet, accurate 22LR round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 My old BRNO 2e extracts them just fine. I’ve got more sense than try to feed them from the magazine though. Plenty accurate enough at 20 yards for anything you are likely to want to shoot with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 hours ago, spandit said: Sorry to open an old thread. Been playing with some CB caps today. They don't feed from the magazine (or the one I designed and 3D printed) but just using an empty magazine as a SS adaptor works fine. However, they don't extract (Sako P94S) without pressing hard on the extractor claw with a screwdriver so they're an absolute pain. Haven't tried the CCI ones but they look like they'd feed better. It's a shame they're not as accurate as an FAC air rifle, though - I wonder why that is? Surely there's a place in the market for a super quiet, accurate 22LR round? Calls for a custom made ramrod to poke them out from the muzzle. A couple of screw eyes into the woodwork of the Sako would complete the package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, 1066 said: Calls for a custom made ramrod to poke them out from the muzzle. A couple of screw eyes into the woodwork of the Sako would complete the package. I'm sure you of all people could engineer a more elegant solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 44 minutes ago, spandit said: I'm sure you of all people could engineer a more elegant solution 😃😃 On a similar vein - Has anyone tried using heavy .22 air pellets in a .223 powered just by a 209 shotshell primer? Gives about the same power as a CB cap at around 15ftlb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted August 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 On 07/07/2021 at 17:59, 1066 said: 😃😃 On a similar vein - Has anyone tried using heavy .22 air pellets in a .223 powered just by a 209 shotshell primer? Gives about the same power as a CB cap at around 15ftlb. Not tried that, but cb caps I use are around 30ft lb, not 15. I might try some h&n airgun slugs in a hornet case with just a primer cap. Could be interesting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Rimfireboy said: Not tried that, but cb caps I use are around 30ft lb, not 15. I might try some h&n airgun slugs in a hornet case with just a primer cap. Could be interesting? Could be interesting stuck in your barrel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 06/10/2016 at 11:34, bruno22rf said: You have too much time on your hands . But contact me if you fancy a day's driven Bumble Bee's Lol, my son and I will spend a entire day chasing carpenter bees around the yard with those shot shells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted August 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 13 hours ago, London Best said: Could be interesting stuck in your barrel! Plenty of power in a magnum small rifle cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) On 06/10/2016 at 17:05, Hammo said: CCI CB Long go well for me, 32 ft/lb and accurate enough out to 30m. Hammo Yes. That's what I found maybe now thirty-five years plus ago when Speer-CCI first introduced them to the UK via John Longstaff. In fact in a long barrel rifle you don't even need a moderator as the bullet is reasonably quiet IN A LONG BARREL RIFLE when it exits the muzzle. But the problem I did find wasn't that they were not accurate (they were very accurate in my mother's .22LR Martini) it was that they "shot through" on the classic front shoulder shot on squirrels as the bullet was solid and, now exited, the bullet was still travelling on. Such that it truth I found them less desirable then my father's .22 BSA Airsporter Mk I as a "killer" as when pulling the trigger you must always be aware of what is behind your chosen target as explained here below. With the Airsporter that was only in case you missed as if you hit they didn't exit the squirrel. With the CB Long they exited all the time regardless of a hit or a miss. And putting CB Long sized holes in tree trunks was frowned upon! Edited August 8, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted August 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 07/08/2021 at 18:27, London Best said: Could be interesting stuck in your barrel! Well, as I have no magnum caps, the standard small rifle caps produce a whopping 12.7ft lbs at the muzzle with airgun slugs 😂👎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rimfireboy said: Well, as I have no magnum caps, the standard small rifle caps produce a whopping 12.7ft lbs at the muzzle with airgun slugs 😂👎 Interesting, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted August 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, London Best said: Interesting, thanks. As you say though, regarding a stuck bullet, a proper .224 rifle bullet would be too tight in the bore I reckon. Wouldn’t want to try one. The airgun slugs are .217 so not so tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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