rwade545 Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I have had air rifles since I was 10, these hae always been sping powered. I owned an FAC 18lt lb .22 weirach 97 a few years ago but have not shot with an air rifle in a while, instead shooting centre fire, rimfire and shotguns. I have a job requiring an air rifle and once again am looking at getting one. I prefer the flat trajectory of a .177 and have been offered an airarms s200 .177 for £275. It is a single shot. What are people opinions of it? It is plenty accurate enough for myself giving a ragged 10 shot hole at 25m. What pumps do people use- I wont shoot it enough to justify keeing a cylinder of air. any reccomendation for a scope for under £50? My rifles all have top glass but cant afford another expensive scope ATM. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 A .177 S200 , has to be one of the best ' budget' pcp's there is . You can get a 10 shot conversion for it which is really simple to fit , and makes a good gun, a great gun. As for accuracy, if you do your bit they are stunningly accurate. I'm not a fan of pumps, as you can get a lot of moisture pumped into your air cylinder , and lead to corrosion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I have had air rifles since I was 10, these hae always been sping powered. I owned an FAC 18lt lb .22 weirach 97 a few years ago but have not shot with an air rifle in a while, instead shooting centre fire, rimfire and shotguns. I have a job requiring an air rifle and once again am looking at getting one. I prefer the flat trajectory of a .177 and have been offered an airarms s200 .177 for £275. It is a single shot. What are people opinions of it? It is plenty accurate enough for myself giving a ragged 10 shot hole at 25m. What pumps do people use- I wont shoot it enough to justify keeing a cylinder of air. any reccomendation for a scope for under £50? My rifles all have top glass but cant afford another expensive scope ATM. Thanks What is the nature of that job ? Nothing wrong with .177 but if it's hunting at short ranges (which is really what air guns are all about) then a .22 would be preferable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwade545 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Will mainly be a rat/ vermin control gun, plus to try get few people into shooting. Prefers.177 as flatter trajectory, never had a problem with it as a calibre before. Heard that moisture can be a problem with the pumps. Will see if I can find a cheap bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Will mainly be a rat/ vermin control gun, plus to try get few people into shooting. Prefers.177 as flatter trajectory, never had a problem with it as a calibre before. Heard that moisture can be a problem with the pumps. Will see if I can find a cheap bottle. I still think .22 would be better, trajectory at the sort of ranges you're talking about is just not a realistic issue, so what if it drops a 4 mm's more you can adjust the scope for that and learning to compensate is part of the appeal. It's widely accepted that ratting is best done with .22 anyway and when it comes to teaching newcomers the bigger pellets make more of a ding when they hit tin cans and such like, the pellets are also easier to pick and load. As I said before there is nothing wrong with .177 but unless you're wanting to compete at a high level on field targets or something then the flatter trajectory is not really that important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Much prefer .177 myself. It does everything a .22 does (had plenty of those as well). The 200 is a good gun. It should do all you need of it. The bottle is a good idea and saves effort later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASunnyD Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Use your pump next to the air conditioner.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Use your pump next to the air conditioner.... And in a well ventilated room,because after youve finished pumping your CZ 200 up,youll be sweating like a pig! Good for the pecs and biceps though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 S200 is lovely gun you wont go wrong with it. One thing to check though is ensure when fireing the bolt stays down and doesnt jump up and back. We had a few issues at the club with an S200 where with amatures they started to push the bolt down before it was fully closed this over time caused the breech block latch point which is alloy to round off leading to you needing to keep a finger on the bolt when fireing to stop it jumping out of the latch point. Pump wise see if you can pick up a Hills one there tend to be a lot come up second hand as people buy them with the intention of using them and get fed up with the effort if they shoot regularly and move to a bottle. They are Sheffield made and last really well, also you can get a dry pack air filter for them to filter the air going in for moisture if you feel the need. Pumping isn't a reel issue on these are the ideal fill pressure for the power curve tends to be <200 bar so you are not going to stupidly high pressures as with some of the Daystates. Scope have a check on the usual forums for a 3-9x40 AO hawke loads of these tend to go for about that. The glass is not bad for the price and they do hold good zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwade545 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Cheers for advice fellas, I started with a .177 game years ago and shot pigeon out to 60-70 yards with it, had fac .22 air that also worked well but for myself I preferred the .177. Thanks I check and the bolt does not move when shooting. Put 100 pellets through it at range before bought it to check all was as expected. Has come with a cheap 'bisley wide angle' scope that will do at present, I have been spoilt with leupold and sightrons so after checking out a few hawke I think I'll have to get saving. Is there any way to tune the 2 stage trigger or replace the plastic blade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 I have been using a pump on mine for the last 5 years and recently stripped it down and you know what? No corrosion internally whatsoever. I have never used a dri pack. The pump can corrode on the fittings at the pump end i think down to thats where some moisture can build up and when you vent the pump it causes moisture to form because of the rapid decompression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Try a Kral Bull pup. I have one and very pleased with it for the price. Multi shot. I pump it. Pigeons don't argue with it. Edited October 27, 2016 by Fisheruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Not sure if it's been mentioned, but when i bought my pump, i had the gun filled by the shop via their air bottle. Then just top up after each hunt/session. Although i did return the pump after a few weeks as it seized up. The shop owner stripped the pump in front of me, and it was full of rusty moisture. I had a refund, and went for a bottle. Although in fairness, it wasn't the best quality pump out there. As for the .177 vs .22, i'll stay out of that debate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) If your shooting is mainly from a static position then before you fully decide look at the 177 TX200HV. I purchased one on recommendation from a couple of guys on here and have been overjoyed with it ...51 magpies later :-) It is heavy and not what I would suggest for stalking on foot, but from a static position it is the dogs doo doos. Unlike some springers the TX200 hardly moves when fired and is scary accurate. Mine was £300 from Solware so a touch more than you are budgeted for. Edited October 27, 2016 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwade545 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 We'll have the s200 snuck into the house and safely in the cabinet. Looks like I've made the switch from a springer to a pcp. More I hear the more I think a bottle is probably going to be better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwade545 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Happy with that for first 10 shot group and a 3x scope at 25m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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