cuffy Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 If prisons are so hard why do people reofend ? Sentencing is to soft And the whole setup just to fund a circle of solicitors , bleeding hearts and hand wringers . Reofenders are just oxygen thiefs Come the revolution ALL these problems will be dealt with . The defenders of the indefensible will join the scum they love so dearly . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuffy Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 12 years for murder But never mind there going to increase to the maximum sentence to 14 years for making racist comments ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 No slur intended, I just thought you might have insider (no pun) knowledge. Mike I can say with confidence he doesn't or he wouldn't hold the views he does. No disrespect meant but anyone with experience of the prison system who isn't a lefty tree hugging looney will understand my points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Maybe Castration (chemical or knife) would be a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I can say with confidence he doesn't or he wouldn't hold the views he does. No disrespect meant but anyone with experience of the prison system who isn't a lefty tree hugging looney will understand my points. Your yet to tell us what your experience is ... I have worked first hand with several prison officers, parole officers, with young offenders teams and social workers. All of them say prison is a terrible environment. Not one who's seen it first hand says how good they have it (just my experience of talking to people who've actually seen it for themselves). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 If prisons are so hard why do people reofend ? Sentencing is to soft And the whole setup just to fund a circle of solicitors , bleeding hearts and hand wringers . Reofenders are just oxygen thiefs Come the revolution ALL these problems will be dealt with . The defenders of the indefensible will join the scum they love so dearly . People often reoffend because their mental health or drug and alcohol problems are not sorted whilst inside. They come out to no job, a ****ty bed**** if they're lucky and about £20 a week to live on. If I was living on those circumstances then I'd probably go out making money any way possible as well. As for "come the revolution" 😂😂 I think you might need some help of your own 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Your yet to tell us what your experience is ... I have worked first hand with several prison officers, parole officers, with young offenders teams and social workers. All of them say prison is a terrible environment. Not one who's seen it first hand says how good they have it (just my experience of talking to people who've actually seen it for themselves). They're hardly going to tell a social worker in a professional capacity, or someone they don't know very well on a personal level what they really think, as if you know the prison system you'll also know it's run with an iron fist, any staff who speak out would be sacked before they finished their first sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 People often reoffend because their mental health or drug and alcohol problems are not sorted whilst inside. They come out to no job, a ****ty bed**** if they're lucky and about £20 a week to live on. If I was living on those circumstances then I'd probably go out making money any way possible as well. These are the sob story's they'll tell you, they get far more priority on release than someone who's lost there job through no fault of their own and you dont see them all turning to crime. some on the mappa sceme will even get more priority than single mothers. Most of them are scum and would steal the last penny from their grandmother to get their next high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Still waiting for your source of knowledge... Daily mail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuffy Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) The university of hard knocks for most . In my previous life I lost years through drink and drugs , I never stole anything , just grafted in the sober bits . Edited January 7, 2017 by cuffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Still waiting for your source of knowledge... Daily mail? To satisfy your curiosity I can pm it if your really that interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 To satisfy your curiosity I can pm it if your really that interested I'm genuinely interested, not having a dig. As requested I shared the source of my opinion, you don't have to agree with it and I accept that you don't. There are some people who I would agree with your opinion in relation to, they are nothing but a drain on society and most likely always will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Fair point Lloyd I'll pm you, genuinely no offence taken, I enjoy a debate, no one's ever going to agree on everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollieollie Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 The conditions in modern prisons i suspect are better than those in our care homes which house people who have managed to make it through life without committing crime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 The conditions in modern prisons i suspect are better than those in our care homes which house people who have managed to make it through life without committing crime+1 fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I'm genuinely interested, not having a dig. As requested I shared the source of my opinion, you don't have to agree with it and I accept that you don't. There are some people who I would agree with your opinion in relation to, they are nothing but a drain on society and most likely always will be. Pm sent to you mate 🖒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southman1 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 What to do with,these sick ,scum , strip them naked have them do a walk of shame before two rows of 50 women , what they can do with their sharpened finger nails , he might come out with his bits intacked but who's cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) With a hot blunt knife. Edited January 7, 2017 by winnie&bezza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly47 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Very powerful and disturbing. My heart goes out to the family, I have young children and feel this should be shown in school across the country on Monday morning.+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I think where certain crimes are concerned the benefit of human rights should be revoked, some may say that's wrong.I cannot for the life of me see that anything positive is achieved by keeping certain criminals alive. I'm with the simple/primitive solution. Cannot get my head round why when a subject like this comes up it gets turned around to the human rights of the inmate who commited the offence... Does anyone not think of the human rights of the child that forfited their life for this type of scum. Society should start eliminating the gene pool that breed these sick ********. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxerboy Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Cannot get my head round why when a subject like this comes up it gets turned around to the human rights of the inmate who commited the offence... Does anyone not think of the human rights of the child that forfited their life for this type of scum. Society should start eliminating the gene pool that breed these sick ********. ^^^^ I'm with Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I think where certain crimes are concerned the benefit of human rights should be revoked, some may say that's wrong. I cannot for the life of me see that anything positive is achieved by keeping certain criminals alive. I'm with the simple/primitive solution Totally with you on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Totally with you on this one. Can't get my head around anyone who would disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 Can't get my head around anyone who would disagree. Friend is a GP and he maintains that most cannot be rehabilitated anyway and are just waiting to offend again, just can't help themselves so you won't find me disagreeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Your yet to tell us what your experience is ... I have worked first hand with several prison officers, parole officers, with young offenders teams and social workers. All of them say prison is a terrible environment. Not one who's seen it first hand says how good they have it (just my experience of talking to people who've actually seen it for themselves). Your probably right Lloyd. Prison is terrible for the Prison officers, young offenders teams and social workers. Shame the prisoners dont find it so terrible! (my source of info, is the scaffolders/builders/contractors etc that i have worked with, who have had first hand experience and are not talking to social workers or parole boards and trying to make them feel sorry for them and get something out of them!) Edit: I also had a lot of dealings with Prisons/Prisoners and have visited most of them in the south, male and female, to visit different prisoners. That was 15+ years ago and the Prisoners had it easy then! (i was a Process server) Edited January 8, 2017 by silver pigeon69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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