ShootingEgg Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I normally use white gold or evo cartridges. Looking at close to 250£ per 1000 round my way Is that looking like the going rate now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I've just paid £73.45 FOR 250 eley dtl gold. 1000 price £220. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evolution380 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I'm a noob so keeping it cheap and cheerful with Hull Comp X at £173 a thou. Just about to order 1000 fiochhi TT One for £176 For a long way down the line if i reach a good enough level and entering competitions and such is the extra money for the premium carts worth it or do you need to be A+ category shooter to notice the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) For a long way down the line if i reach a good enough level and entering competitions and such is the extra money for the premium carts worth it or do you need to be A+ category shooter to notice the difference? Yes and no. Component-wise, you'll be hard-pressed to tell the difference on firing. Most normal cartridges of a similar loading will throw a similarly dense / open pattern in whatever gun you test them. "Speed" doesn't help and you'll always find one brand that gun doesn't really "like" if you look hard enough. Broadly though, every 28g / #7½ cartridge will throw a "sufficient" pattern for clays, 99% of the time, provided the rest of the setup is good. What you are paying for with the "big brands" though, is consistency of construction. When breaking that last, 100th target is the difference between going home several hundred quid richer / getting the Olympic medal / etc. or not, then consistency is what you need. You definitely don't want to discover that on that last, really easy target that you know you can't miss, that slightly too much powder went into the cartridge and blows the pattern, or that the wad was damaged on loading and the pattern you're expecting doesn't get thrown and the cartridge causes you to miss. Of course, it still happens - if that lump of lead doesn't want to go through the clay, so to speak, it won't. You can't steer them, after all. On the other hand, even with the experts, it's as much a case of it feeling the same as it is with performance being the same every time. Change their expensive cartridge for a cheap one for that last target and it'll feel "wrong" to them, but it doesn't mean they aren't going to smash the clay and take the prize. It's just about removing variation as far as possible so that, once they're "in the zone", every shot feels the same as far as possible and they know where the shot cloud is going to fly if they hold / swing the gun like this or like that. Most people never get good enough to justify expensive cartridges. Those that are genuinely good enough to need them tend not to pay for them anyway. Edited August 14, 2017 by neutron619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I haven't bought any for a few months now but GB Evo are what I shoot and am sure they are £220 per 1000. Ive been on the 20bore lately getting my eye in for the game season ! Love white gold but cant afford them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I'm a noob so keeping it cheap and cheerful with Hull Comp X at £173 a thou. Just about to order 1000 fiochhi TT One for £176 For a long way down the line if i reach a good enough level and entering competitions and such is the extra money for the premium carts worth it or do you need to be A+ category shooter to notice the difference? I was quoted 196 for comp x but ive never got on with them. Sounds like 250 is yhe amount for them of the eleys are 220per thou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evolution380 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Great reply cheers Neutron. Going on that I think I'll be ok to stick with my cheapies for a little while yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Hull superfast around £185 for plastic and £195 fibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Lyavale express 28gr. 71/2. 12g Power blue 250 x£50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evolution380 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) For budget cartridges countryman of derby seem very respectable at the moment. Obviously not ideal for those not close.. All below are 7.5 PW 27/28g pretty much +£5 a thou more for FW Hull Comp X = £172 Hull Superfast = £175 Gamebore Velocity Plus = £174 Eley First Select = £173 In terms of pigeons they also do Eley Pigeon Select 7 30g FW for £199 a Thou.. Not sure if these compete with typical 32g loads though to warrant the price? http://www.thecountryman.com/ammunition-reloading/shotgun-cartridges/12-gauge?dir=asc&order=price Inr response to OP here there £242 a thou for GB White Gold Edited August 14, 2017 by evolution380 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 For budget cartridges countryman of derby seem very respectable at the moment. Obviously not ideal for those not close.. All below are 7.5 PW 27/28g pretty much +£5 a thou more for FW Hull Comp X = £172 Hull Superfast = £175 Gamebore Velocity Plus = £174 Eley First Select = £173 In terms of pigeons they also do Eley Pigeon Select 7 30g FW for £199 a Thou.. Not sure if these compete with typical 32g loads though to warrant the price? http://www.thecountryman.com/ammunition-reloading/shotgun-cartridges/12-gauge?dir=asc&order=price Inr response to OP here there £242 a thou for GB White Gold Yeah im being quoted 248 and 250 for GB white golds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 gamebore velocity 7.5 28g £3.80 plus vat mole valley. bought a slab saturday and saw your mate in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 gamebore velocity 7.5 28g £3.80 plus vat mole valley. bought a slab saturday and saw your mate in there I too have had some bargains from Cullompton, but fill yer boots as they'll be restocking soon and the current prices are for last year's supply so there's bound to be a price hike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Express English Sporter fibre 28g 7.5's £181 per 1000.Only thing l use now, Pigeon and Clays, they lMHO are the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantrem ember Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 What ever you decide go any buy 10,000+ and you might be able to get a moderate price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 gamebore velocity 7.5 28g £3.80 plus vat mole valley. bought a slab saturday and saw your mate in there What, he wasn't in his tractor?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I'm no Digweed but White Gold perform better than Superfast for me, quite noticeably, so I'm happy to pay the extra. Although I did like 24g Evo before I stopped shooting plastic wad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I'm no Digweed but White Gold perform better than Superfast for me, quite noticeably, so I'm happy to pay the extra. Although I did like 24g Evo before I stopped shooting plastic wad Yeah for some reason I shoot well with the WG's and Evos... Just not cheap to haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Express English Sporter fibre 28g 7.5's £181 per 1000. Only thing l use now, Pigeon and Clays, they lMHO are the Went in to top up this morning and they have gone up in price, £49.25 a slab or £197.00 per1000. I only checked the price on Friday night and they were showing at £181.00, must be popular at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper682 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 The lower prices on superfast , velocity etc were promo rates. They're all going up again very soon. Fill your boots. Jasper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 As is regularly said, find what you like to shoot, agree a good price and buy as many as you can afford or can store. Buy in quantity. This is the ONLY way to get reasonable prices on shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 14 August 2017 at 18:32, Pigeon Shredder. said: On 19 August 2017 at 21:20, Pigeon Shredder. said: Went in to top up this morning and they have gone up in price, £49.25 a slab or £197.00 per1000. I only checked the price on Friday night and they were showing at £181.00, must be popular at the moment? On 19 August 2017 at 21:20, Pigeon Shredder. said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 14 August 2017 at 18:32, Pigeon Shredder. said: Express English Sporter fibre 28g 7.5's £181 per 1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 I shoot a lot of CompX 28g fiber -- at £191. They are my goto cartridge, as I can shoot them in all my guns, they will break anything. I did my first 25 at skeet with them, my first 25 at compak and my first 25 and FITASC with them. I can shoot hundreds and not feel a thing, even with my hammer gun with bone shoulder pad. I also buy (but shoot less) F-BLU 28g plastic wad <=£200 -- for the rare occasion I do a CPSA round at Churchill... They hit harder, feel harder on the shoulder, and definitely make more 'dust cloud' than the compx... but since I mostly shoot on 'fiber only' grounds, I use a lot less of them than the goto compx. One thing I noticed is that everyone was VERY busy raising the price of carts when brexit mania hit... I used to buy the CompX at arounds £160 -- and now the pound, and lead prices are almost back to where they were, but guess what, cart prices haven't gone down! Amazing, that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 I bought 1000 hull super fast plastic a month ago, £177 Went in the same place today now there £197 per 1000, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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