ips Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 whilst loading for a gun the other day another gentleman who lives not far from me asked if I would teach his son to shoot. He has adequate land and a trap. I have taught and mentored many new shooters in the past but not for payment. what is the going rate per hour for personal instruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 £5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 You would need liability insurance and a adequate qualification to under go such tuition, if your a member of BASC I would contact them first, best of luck chap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 8 hours ago, E.w. said: You would need liability insurance and a adequate qualification to under go such tuition, if your a member of BASC I would contact them first, best of luck chap. why do you think he would need liability insurance or a qualification? Ian, rates will vary depending on the experience/reputation of the coach, competition in that area, etc. Also depends if you are supplying a gun for use and cartridges, clays, etc. £50/hour for time only will not be far away from the market rate for an experienced instructor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Simply because you are running a business by charging people for lessons that’s the reason for checking with BASC that he’s legal and above board to teach there’s nothing like being careful when it come to guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 11 hours ago, billytheghillie said: £5 my **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 worth a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, grrclark said: why do you think he would need liability insurance or a qualification? Ian, rates will vary depending on the experience/reputation of the coach, competition in that area, etc. Also depends if you are supplying a gun for use and cartridges, clays, etc. £50/hour for time only will not be far away from the market rate for an experienced instructor. Thanks that's not far off what I was thinking. for the record, I am an accredited loader with the NGO (certificate and loaders id) I also have insurance with the NGO which covers me for loading as well as the usual shooting, not sure about instructing though so will have to check. This is an informal arrangement and shooting will take place on the gentlemans land (ample shot fall etc) his trap, clays, cartridges and gun. 1 minute ago, billytheghillie said: worth a try Lets hope he doesn't feel the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 good luck with it mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, billytheghillie said: good luck with it mate cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 You are obviously a very responsible person, I wish you all the best with your new venture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, E.w. said: You are obviously a very responsible person, I wish you all the best with your new venture. thank you E.w ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 If this is a 'one off', why charge? No payment = no comeback. Apart from that, the £s that you charge will soon disappear over the forthcoming frivolities. On the other hand, payment in kind can be of a more permanent nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, wymberley said: If this is a 'one off', why charge? No payment = no comeback. Apart from that, the £s that you charge will soon disappear over the forthcoming frivolities. On the other hand, payment in kind can be of a more permanent nature. might even have an invitation to some shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 to be honest wymberley at this stage I don't know how regular it will be, I am loading for the same Gun next Tuesday on another estate and I believe the gentleman in question is also attending so I would think we will discuss matters further then. We had very little time on Monday as he only asked me as I was returning my Guns gun after having cleaned it and they were on there way into the hall for there meal. 2 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: might even have an invitation to some shooting thats a good point he is very wealthy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: might even have an invitation to some shooting Payment in kind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, wymberley said: Payment in kind? indeed, that sounds like a good plan ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBettin Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 From the few posts I've seen you seem like the right guy for the job. Pretty patient in the other thread and helped me improve my shot and I haven't even met you so I'm sure you'll do well as a paid instructor. Let me know if you ever do lessons in the North West mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, DanBettin said: From the few posts I've seen you seem like the right guy for the job. Pretty patient in the other thread and helped me improve my shot and I haven't even met you so I'm sure you'll do well as a paid instructor. Let me know if you ever do lessons in the North West mate. your very kind Dan I am glad that my input (along with other members on that thread) was of help. I am north west my friend ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Personally I would do it for the pleasure and cost incurred i.e. Cartridges and fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 50 minutes ago, bruno22rf said: Personally I would do it for the pleasure and cost incurred i.e. fuel, and because there's a need. +1 Although I've just had to slightly amend your words to suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I have mentored and advised many shooters over the years and enjoyed doing so without ever a mention of payment, however on this occasion the gentleman approached me whilst I was carrying out a job as a "professional" (loading / minding) and asked if I also offered "instruction" therefore he obviously intends to pay for this service. It is a totally different scenario to advising a friend, acquaintance or someone on a clay ground that you happened to have got talking to. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, ips said: I have mentored and advised many shooters over the years and enjoyed doing so without ever a mention of payment, however on this occasion the gentleman approached me whilst I was carrying out a job as a "professional" (loading / minding) and asked if I also offered "instruction" therefore he obviously intends to pay for this service. It is a totally different scenario to advising a friend, acquaintance or someone on a clay ground that you happened to have got talking to. ? Hi, My last post was not aimed at yourself, but was simply in reply to Bruno and was mainly about myself. What I described was the first ever batch of coaches for a particular organisation. With one exception if I remember correctly, the students making up the first course of instruction were a particular bunch and all we had to do was turn up and pay attention. We paid nothing for the course or accommodation and were reimbursed for travelling expenses. When I say "all we had to do", that was a bit of an understatement because several very intensive, long and traumatic days later there was just a little matter of proving to gerry Turner, John King, Chris Craddock and Mike Aldis that we had actually listened. In return, we turned up and did the business whenever or wherever we were asked and were unpaid. We did so because we saw the need and it also gave pleasure particularly when the youngsters were involved. Edited November 30, 2017 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Have a good chat to the fella when you next load for him, if he is happy to pay you that's fine, but could he get you some pigeon shooting? He might well know folk with land, its not what you know but who, you might do a few hours tuition over a few weeks, probably keep getting him asking you to load for him, could well be a good situation for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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