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Since using my 452 American HMR more over the past month or so l have used Hornady, Fed Shox's and CCI A17's 17gr's and have found very little difference in the accuracy and have hit bunnies and squizzers out at 100mt's + every time l do my bit right.

The only difference is that the CCl's sound different, more of a whoosh than a crack.

Oh and l keep a 5 shot mag of 20gr handy in case Mr Fox shows up, now they are very good.

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On 16/12/2017 at 08:50, Pigeon Shredder. said:

 

rh and l keep a 5 shot mag of 20gr handy in case Mr Fox shows up, now they are very good.

Are you seriously saying 3gr more is needed to kill a fox :no: 

I used to use Hornady .17 V- Mag or Remington 17 accu-tip but now use Winchester 17 Supreme all will shoot into a small finger nail at 127 yrd IF I do my bit personally shot thousands of rounds never had a issue

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10 hours ago, 6.5x55SE said:

Are you seriously saying 3gr more is needed to kill a fox :no: 

I used to use Hornady .17 V- Mag or Remington 17 accu-tip but now use Winchester 17 Supreme all will shoot into a small finger nail at 127 yrd IF I do my bit personally shot thousands of rounds never had a issue

No, just my choice to use what l like.

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12 hours ago, 6.5x55SE said:

Are you seriously saying 3gr more is needed to kill a fox  

I used to use Hornady .17 V- Mag or Remington 17 accu-tip but now use Winchester 17 Supreme all will shoot into a small finger nail at 127 yrd IF I do my bit personally shot thousands of rounds never had a issue

They penetrate better than the 17 grain ballistic tips, I don’t think the extra 3 grains has much to do with it, it’s the way that they expand that makes a difference.

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28 minutes ago, Rimfireboy said:

They penetrate better than the 17 grain ballistic tips, I don’t think the extra 3 grains has much to do with it, it’s the way that they expand that makes a difference.

Really :whistling: 

Oh and I've been shooting rimfire and centre fire rifles for 40+ years

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13 minutes ago, 6.5x55SE said:

Really  

Oh and I've been shooting rimfire and centre fire rifles for 40+ years

They do penetrate better, but neither are ideal I agree. I would only head shoot them with hmr. I’ve been shooting hmr’s since they were first available, and I know that they were never intended as a fox calibre.

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