Newbie to this Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Had this sent over from a RFD friend. Seems a load more powders are going from the UK market HENRY KRANK From 1st June 2018, the following powders will not be REACH compliant: Non REACH compliant Hodgdon powder: H4198 Hodgdon Extreme Rifle Powder H322 Hodgdon Extreme Rifle Powder Benchmark Hodgdon Extreme Rifle Powder H335 Hodgdon Spherical Rifle Powder H4895 Hodgdon Extreme Rifle Powder Varget Hodgdon Extreme Rifle Powder BL-C (2) Hodgdon Spherical Rifle Powder H380 Hodgdon Spherical Rifle Powder H414 Hodgdon Spherical Rifle Powder H4350 Hodgdon Extreme Rifle Powder H4831 Hodgdon Extreme Rifle Powder H4831SC Hodgdon Extreme Rifle Powder H1000 Hodgdon Extreme Rifle Powder H50 BMG Hodgdon Extreme Rifle Powder Non REACH compliant IMR powder: IMR Smokeless Rifle Powder 4198 IMR Smokeless Rifle Powder 3031 IMR Smokeless Rifle Powder 4895 IMR Smokeless Rifle Powder 4064 IMR Smokeless Rifle Powder 4320 IMR Smokeless Rifle Powder 4350 IMR Smokeless Rifle Powder 4831 IMR Smokeless Powder Trail Boss IMR Smokeless Powder PB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Good post/list. I think most knew the Hodgdons were going.........didn't know about IMR though. Is that a yank powder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, turbo33 said: Good post/list. I think most knew the Hodgdons were going.........didn't know about IMR though. Is that a yank powder? All made by the same company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Good job I’ve got a whole tub of this for my 17 hornet reloads. Using 11gns per load, I think I’ll be ok for a while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, markm said: Good job I’ve got a whole tub of this for my 17 hornet reloads. Using 11gns per load, I think I’ll be ok for a while... Stock up on a few now and you’ll be ok forever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Well, you will until that second head starts growing out of your neck caused by all the toxic chemicals it contains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 I'm sure that with the American culture of claiming damages for any small issue there is no risk with any of these powders. Just another EU move to rid its population of private gun ownership. Hopefully we will be out of EU soon and just have the UK government to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 We live in hope but it's not looking rosy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 05/07/2018 at 00:06, Lloyd90 said: Stock up on a few now and you’ll be ok forever... I've got 2.5 tubs of H4198 & 2.5 tubs of H4895, plus a few hundred rounds of .22 Hornet / .204 Ruger ready made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 07/07/2018 at 08:38, MAB1954 said: I'm sure that with the American culture of claiming damages for any small issue there is no risk with any of these powders. Just another EU move to rid its population of private gun ownership. Hopefully we will be out of EU soon and just have the UK government to worry about. Its not gun related, all substances imported into the EU have to be REACH compliant. As I understand it the importers simply don't think the volumes justify the cost of getting them all tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Is that because the EU officials have deliberately set high charges for testing? Would you trust these people? Don,t think I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otblue Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 05/07/2018 at 04:17, bluesj said: All made by the same company Not so. Marketed by Hodgdon but not made by them. All of the original Extreme range of extruded powders were made by ADI/Thales in Australia but that changed a few years ago and some are now made by North American factories. Most but not all of the IMR range (Trail Boss is ADI) is North American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 09/07/2018 at 12:23, Vince Green said: Its not gun related, all substances imported into the EU have to be REACH compliant. As I understand it the importers simply don't think the volumes justify the cost of getting them all tested. I think it is gun related, EU wants to rid itself of private gun ownership by any means it can, REACH is just another tool to achieve this. I don't think the Americans have an equivalent to the EU REACH so its all rubbish end of. The rest of the world will still be using these powders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkom Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 From a different angle - why can the American reloader frequently purchase European powders, primers and new cartridge cases (shotgun) - cheaper than the US manufactured equivalents - and cheaper than we can buy in the UK ? Am I correct in thinking that the tariffs applied in the US on foreign imports are not being levied - OR - are the EU manufacturers "dumping" a subsidised product in the US to undermine US manufacturers. Whatever way one looks at it, there is a bad aroma.... surprise, surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otblue Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 4 hours ago, harkom said: From a different angle - why can the American reloader frequently purchase European powders, primers and new cartridge cases (shotgun) - cheaper than the US manufactured equivalents - and cheaper than we can buy in the UK ? Am I correct in thinking that the tariffs applied in the US on foreign imports are not being levied - OR - are the EU manufacturers "dumping" a subsidised product in the US to undermine US manufacturers. Whatever way one looks at it, there is a bad aroma.... surprise, surprise? Same situation DownUnder. Here is an attempt at an explanation from the ADI website. I take this with many grains of salt because the same cost disparity exists on many manufactured goods that don't have these stringent compliance costs. I've heard many of the Hodgdon powders are actually ADI powders. If so why are they cheaper to purchase in the US? One of the first things to note is that powder is typically sold in one-pound jars in the US, and that one pound is 453.6 grams. Australian reloaders buying 500 gram jars are therefore getting 10% more powder per jar than in the US. Further, ADI Powders does not control the retail price of our powders in Australia. The retail price of powder is determined by the market, and gunshops are free to set the price of powder according to their costs and profit requirements. This brings us neatly to the final factor determining the retail price of powder – the relatively high cost associated with moving powder around Australia in compliance with transport regulations as set by each state. In the US, powder can often be shipped as ordinary freight, while in Australia it has to be moved by a licensed carrier of dangerous goods. The cost of compliance with these requirements is probably the largest single factor determining the retail price of our powder in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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