Guest Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Bit of a random question this, but I couldn't find any other threads on the forum about it. What are the rules around transporting a gun on a motorcycle? Is it legal, illegal or frowned upon to put a gun, in parts in a bag and carry it on your back on a bike? I just wondered is all, as I ride a bike and drive a car and when/if I eventually get my SGC (still waiting) I wondered if I would be able to go to the local clay shooting ground on my bike with the gun broken down in the bag? Naturally, I have the car at my disposal too, but just wondered. If it's a stupid question please don't be too harsh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 You could do a search if you want as this has been covered before, but perfectly legal. You can carry one on a pushbike if you want or walk through town with one as long as it’s slipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 I would suggest getting a gun case/rucksack that can hold the gun in its disassembled state but remember if there is an accident there is going to be 8lb of steel running down you spine, so make sure it is well padded but from a legal issue there is no law to prevent you from doing so if the gun is unliaded and inside a cover. Your local FAO may have an issue with transport if you take it on bike assembled in a gun slip due to the gun being obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Scully said: You could do a search if you want as this has been covered before, but perfectly legal. You can carry one on a pushbike if you want or walk through town with one as long as it’s slipped. Cheers Scully, I did a quick search but I couldn't find anything. Will have a another look. Admin feel free to delete this if it's covering old ground. Just now, Stonepark said: I would suggest getting a gun case/rucksack that can hold the gun in its disassembled state but remember if there is an accident there is going to be 8lb of steel running down you spine, so make sure it is well padded but from a legal issue there is no law to prevent you from doing so if the gun is unliaded and inside a cover. Your local FAO may have an issue with transport if you take it on bike assembled in a gun slip due to the gun being obvious. Yep, a good valid point too. I doubt I ever would (I doubt I'll ever get the SGC at this rate tbh!) but was just curious. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdadphil Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) My 2p worth... years ago i was going to a clay gound with my shotgun in a padded slip when I was rear ended and sustained whiplash (off work for a couple of weeks). Police were called and i told them I was going shooting and had a gun secured in the boot( which i could still open) and they werent interested. In recent years I commuted 15 miles to work in central london by Scooter, 4 x getting knocked off, 1 x broken arm , 3 bikes written off, I saw sense and got the train. You will know how vulnerable you are on a bike and if you come off apart from any injury done to you the gun will probably be mangled (unless in a heavy duty case!) but if i had been carrying a gun a even in break down mode and police were called after an RTC I suspect they would be very unhappy about the lack of security especially if i was injured and they had to call an ARV to secure the weapon cheers Phil Edited September 12, 2018 by gdadphil spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartyboy Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Totally legal to carry it in a slip as others have said. Be good practice to break it down though and keep the forend separate from the rest of the gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 38 minutes ago, Scully said: You could do a search if you want as this has been covered before, but perfectly legal. You can carry one on a pushbike if you want or walk through town with one as long as it’s slipped. 11 minutes ago, stuartyboy said: Totally legal to carry it in a slip as others have said. Be good practice to break it down though and keep the forend separate from the rest of the gun Excluding anything to do with youngsters - and possibly common sense - but as seen in the case of pocket knives, legal and common sense are often a contradiction in terms, I can't seem to find anything in Section 19 about the need for this. Mind you, my reference is somewhat dated. Does anyone have an update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, gdadphil said: My 2p worth... years ago i was going to a clay gound with my shotgun in a padded slip when I was rear ended and sustained whiplash (off work for a couple of weeks). Police were called and i told them I was going shooting and had a gun secured in the boot( which i could still open) and they werent interested. In recent years I commuted 15 miles to work in central london by Scooter, 4 x getting knocked off, 1 x broken arm , 3 bikes written off, I saw sense and got the train. You will know how vulnerable you are on a bike and if you come off apart from any injury done to you the gun will probably be mangled (unless in a heavy duty case!) but if i had been carrying a gun a even in break down mode and police were called after an RTC I suspect they would be very unhappy about the lack of security especially if i was injured and they had to call an ARV to secure the weapon cheers Phil Damn, you've had your fair share of prangs eh gdadphil? I ride a Triumph Bonneville myself, and I ride it like a granddad. However I guess it's the other nutters on the road we need to watch out for! XD Edited September 12, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Whilst in connection with it's legal use It is perfectly legal to carry a firearm in a public place. That includes on a motorbike, bicycle, walking or even horseback. Just put your gunslip over your back and away you go. 19Carrying firearm in a public place. A person commits an offence if, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on him) he has with him in a public place [F76(a)a loaded shot gun, (b)an air weapon (whether loaded or not), (c)any other firearm (whether loaded or not) together with ammunition suitable for use in that firearm, or (d)an imitation firearm.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 As for security, it's legal if it's covered then why worry? Maybe because it's the arrogance in me, but if I'm 100% legal I couldnt give a flying **** about other people's perceptions and will happily carry it on my back. As for other road users and me getting hit and breaking my gun, I'd be more upset that my bike was in bits as I'm not known for having expensive guns. Or bikes for that matter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdadphil Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 It may be legal but is it common sense to ride a motorbike with a shotgun in a slip in an urban area in todays society? I would not want to worry about being followed and my address noted as holding a shotgun and i wouldnt want someone to freak out and tell the police there's a guy with a sgun over his shoulder driving down the Road we have had too many kids on scooters doing raids so peole are more aware cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 In a slip, probably not. But broken down and on the way to a clay shoot, or off for a days wonder, why not? If I was that paranoid of everything that went on around I wouldn't walk or drive never mind ride. In all fairness anybody who lives in a town maybe should be more conscious with address, but carrying it broken down in a bag on your back to your bike is no different than carrying it to your car. In fact if it's broken down, people won't even know compared to a slip which you'd put in the car, as you probably wouldn't break it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, wymberley said: Excluding anything to do with youngsters - and possibly common sense - but as seen in the case of pocket knives, legal and common sense are often a contradiction in terms, I can't seem to find anything in Section 19 about the need for this. Mind you, my reference is somewhat dated. Does anyone have an update? Absolutely agree. I am not aware of any legislation stipulating such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Thanks all for your replies to this. I doubt there's any real chance of me actually taking a gun on my bike, but you've all pretty much answered my question. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, gdadphil said: It may be legal but is it common sense to ride a motorbike with a shotgun in a slip in an urban area in todays society? I would not want to worry about being followed and my address noted as holding a shotgun and i wouldnt want someone to freak out and tell the police there's a guy with a sgun over his shoulder driving down the Road we have had too many kids on scooters doing raids so peole are more aware cheers I dont get this at all. If we ( shooters ) are to be so afraid to go about our legal business 'just in case', then why do any of us bother? We can be observed leaving our houses with a gun in a slip, anyone can find out clay ground addresses and access clay grounds and walk around them all day unchallenged, taking down number plates or indeed following certain vehicles to their homes. There is a huge difference between common sense and being paranoid. If we're at the stage where we daren't go about our lawful business on the streets of Britain in broad daylight, then we've given up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Scully said: I dont get this at all. If we ( shooters ) are to be so afraid to go about our legal business 'just in case', then why do any of us bother? We can be observed leaving our houses with a gun in a slip, anyone can find out clay ground addresses and access clay grounds and walk around them all day unchallenged, taking down number plates or indeed following certain vehicles to their homes. There is a huge difference between common sense and being paranoid. If we're at the stage where we daren'tgo about our lawful business on the streets of Britain in broad daylight, then we've given up. Couldn't agree more. I get quite exasperated when so many topics bemoan the ever increasing micro management of gun ownership, yet gun owners themselves are more than happy to suggest and advocate even further restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol p Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 I think we've been here before with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 3 hours ago, CharlieT said: Couldn't agree more. I get quite exasperated when so many topics bemoan the ever increasing micro management of gun ownership, yet gun owners themselves are more than happy to suggest and advocate even further restrictions. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Theres a guy up my way who Is often seen getting on public transport ( bus) with shotgun in a slip, going to the clay ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 Much as I agree it's common sense to have the gun in a slip or case, and I would personally want to break it down in a bag, I have yet to see any legal requirement for it to be covered at all. A previous post includes the relevant portion of the act and no mention is made of covering the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciurus Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 Brodie’s Point interests me. My Mossberg hushpower is so long that 2 inches of stock sticks out of the slip. Is this legal in the back of my car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Sciurus said: Brodie’s Point interests me. My Mossberg hushpower is so long that 2 inches of stock sticks out of the slip. Is this legal in the back of my car? Yes. If you don’t want to see it throw your coat over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Yea it will be fine. I often use a rifle slip for my pump which sticks out 2-4". Can't say I walk round town like that mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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