Rewulf Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, oowee said: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018/09/20/skripal-suspects-confirmed-gru-operatives-prior-european-operations-disclosed/ Not being pedantic here , but who the ---- are Bellingcat ? And why do they seem to be able to be the informed voice of our intelligence services, are they a front for MI6 , if so ,why do they need a front ? They have heavily influenced the MH 17 inquiry, supplying information (blaming Russia directly) that supposedly no one else could find. Now they seem privy to information that our own government couldnt find about the GRU 'assassins' It sounds to me like they are an expendable organisation, that can be swiftly burned if they get exposed for selling misinformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Bellingcat AKA 'Brown Moses', is one Elliot Higgins. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingcat. Quite why he's afforded the oracle like status that he is is a bit baffling really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Retsdon said: Bellingcat AKA 'Brown Moses', is one Elliot Higgins. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingcat. Quite why he's afforded the oracle like status that he is is a bit baffling really. 'In March 2012, Eliot Higgins started a blog under the pseudonym Brown Moses, through which he published his research into video footage of the Syrian Civil War.[3] He looked at hundreds of these short clips on the Internet, localized them, and examined details of the weapons used. As a result, Higgins was able to demonstrate that the Syrian regime was using cluster munitions and chemical weapons. In 2013, Higgins linked the significant chemical attack in Ghouta to Bashar al-Assad' Seems legit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 It seems one of Putins "civilians" suspected as having carried out the Salisbury attack, has been identified and named as a Russian Colonel awarded by Putin with the highest honour , as a hero of Russia for his military service! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 You don’t get to be a Colonel in the KGB by being a nice guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 So, let's recap.... Do the tin foil hatters now accept that Putin was behind the nerve agent attempted assassination in Salisbury or not? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45656004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mungler said: So, let's recap.... Do the tin foil hatters now accept that Putin was behind the nerve agent attempted assassination in Salisbury or not? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45656004 Nope. Why would I ? All this information came from a bloke who trawls the internet from the comfort of his sofa, the same internet sites you or I can look at, and comes up with ROCK SOLID PROOF 😂 that one of the 'tourists' is a member of the Russian armed forces. But not just any old soldier, a colonel no less (at 39 ?!) spetsnaz trained (similar to SAS ,SEALS ect !) a hero of the Russian people, anointed by Putin himself. 20 medals, veteran of many conflicts, including Ukraine (?) The man is Rambo Yet cant organise the murder of an unsuspecting bloke who didnt have any defences whatsoever. And uses public transport and commercial flights to get about , whilst smiling at every CCTV camera he can ,and leaving a trail of evidence and witnesses to lead straight back to him? Yep ,got to be him then ! You would do far better analysing where the information is coming from. Bellingcat, being the fountain of all knowledge here, straight to BBC headlines, proven beyond all reasonable doubt ? With no support from any official source whatsoever. Apparently the Russians havnt denied it yet , so it must be true, laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 I was scrolling through this and saw this... 2 hours ago, Mungler said: So, let's recap.... Do the tin foil hatters now accept that Putin was behind the nerve agent attempted assassination in Salisbury or not? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45656004 ...and knew, absolutely 100% that this was going to follow... 2 hours ago, Rewulf said: Nope. Why would I ? Priceless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, henry d said: I was scrolling through this and saw this... ...and knew, absolutely 100% that this was going to follow... Priceless! Good contribution Henry, well done ! Ive given my reasons for why it changes nothing. You have added nothing except a leisurely troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Good contribution Henry, well done ! Ive given my reasons for why it changes nothing. You have added nothing except a leisurely troll Did you read the background to the Bellingcat conclusion's? I don't know what internet sites you have access to 🙂 Expect more revelations soon. RT awaiting instructions. Edited September 27, 2018 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB1 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 I have a theory on this.... well two actually. Mr Skripal (A former Russian spy apparently) was selling info to a British intelligence agency. 1. The Russian Government were'nt too happy about this, and thus decided to bump him off. 2. MI6 had finished with his services, and decided to do it themselves. Either way, does it really matter, as I'm sure it's been done umpteen times before by both sides, and it's fair to say 'It goes with the territory'? The only difference nowadays is that Putin can comfortably pour himself a large vodka, sit back and laugh his socks off at what he sees on Social Media😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) Im a wha..? From Bellingcat, via its favourite mouthpiece, the Guardian. "The odds of finding the Salisbury novichok poisoning suspects’ real identities seemed remote. The man who called himself Ruslan Boshirov had no social media profiles, no publicly registered businesses or phonebook listings, and after giving a brief and bizarre interview on the state-funded RT television station earlier this month, many Russia watchers assumed he would simply disappear into the ether. But in a series of blockbuster investigations, the online investigative journalism sites Bellingcat and The Insider presented a strong case to identify Boshirov as Col Anatoliy Chepiga, a highly-decorated officer in the Russian military intelligence (GRU). The investigation combined elements of old-school journalism, like tips from sources with knowledge of the Russian military, with powerful online search techniques, leaked databases of Russian passport documents, and a large dose of intuition. “We had no expectation we’d be able to make an ID,” Eliot Higgins, who founded Bellingcat in 2014 after pioneering a series of open-source investigations, told the Guardian. “But after our first article we had a number of people reaching out with additional information, and some of it was very specific information. The main challenge then was fact-checking and verifying the information we were provided with.” Asked about those tips, Higgins said he couldn’t go into detail at this point." From RT (I know, all lies ) "The way Bellingcat came to the conclusion is by creating a preferred profile of a Russian military intelligence officer and then looking for a person to fit it. By “connecting the dots” between a military unit in which they believed such an agent may have been given training, absence of an online trail and brief mentions in open sources and old documents in Russian databases, they came up with Chepiga as their guy. The centerpiece of the case is a comparison of photos of a Chepiga, which Bellingcat said was taken in 2003, and those of Boshirov taken in 2009 and 2018. The group says the young Chepiga strongly resembles a younger Boshirov. The report stresses that it would be highly unusual for a decorated veteran commando with a rank of colonel to go on a field mission. Bellingcat implies that it indicates that an order came from high up. Alternative explanations are not explored by the group. The authenticity and veracity of the documents, which Bellingcat claimed it got from a Russian database, could not be immediately verified." The colonel in L to R 2003 , 2009 and 2018, the above ,larger pic is also 2018. Im no expert in photographs, and you may need to search for the originals online, but note the line of the bottom of the ears, with the bottom of the nose in 2003, to my mind they appear to have been cropped square too ? 2008 also shows signs of cropping, and both earlier pics the hair is different. These photos and the apparent similarities are the basis for the 'proof' that the 'tourist' is the 'colonel' Now if this is the case, and we know his real name, Im waiting for someone ,somewhere who knows him to come forward and talk to the press, someone within the Russian military who served with him in his 20 year career in the military? Or shall we just trust Bellingcat? Who has NO experience in investigative journalism. NO experience in military hardware or tactics, besides playing computer games (by his own admission) Has never travelled to any of the places he reports on. Has (supposedly) no links to any security service. Oh and only 'reports' on stuff that bashes the Russians ! Yet appears to influence worldwide media, and top level inquiries ? 4 minutes ago, KB1 said: 1. The Russian Government were'nt too happy about this, and thus decided to bump him off. 2. MI6 had finished with his services, and decided to do it themselves. And both theories end up with a live target at the end of it ? Edited September 27, 2018 by Rewulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB1 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rewulf said: And both theories end up with a live target at the end of it ? I kinda mentioned that😎 Nice post though........ I can just see Vladimir pouring his next vodka now☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 Well, the second suspect is about to be unmasked.... I can't wait for the tin foil hatters next explanation. It will be entertaining at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 Quote Im no expert in photographs, and you may need to search for the originals online, but note the line of the bottom of the ears, with the bottom of the nose in 2003, to my mind they appear to have been cropped square too On the first photo - his head is tilted backward and he leans forward increasingly. The distance from his eyeline to the bottom of his ears remains constant - according to my measuring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB1 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gordon R said: On the first photo - his head is tilted backward and he leans forward increasingly. The distance from his eyeline to the bottom of his ears remains constant - according to my measuring. Not to mention the beard😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 47 minutes ago, Gordon R said: On the first photo - his head is tilted backward and he leans forward increasingly. The distance from his eyeline to the bottom of his ears remains constant - according to my measuring. I confess that is what I concluded, the position (angle) of the subjects head (backward or forward) would alter the line of the ears in relation to the nose etc! (and other facial characteristics) ..........in all three photos it sure looks like the same guy to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 All points taken about tilt. But my friends at Lizard Watch 😁 are adamant that the 2 B +W photos have been altered, possibly innocently , but altered none the less. Mr Murrays 2p s worth. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/09/boshirov-is-probably-not-chepiga-but-he-is-also-not-boshirov/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 Perhaps we should look for common ground, rather than debating ad infinitum. Can we all agree that the Moon is made of cheese and move on from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 On 15/09/2018 at 19:58, pinfireman said: I agree! Mind you, they were right about the Earth being flat, and the Moon being made of cheese! Already established Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB1 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Rewulf said: Already established OMG, I seriously hope there are no FE's on PW😫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, KB1 said: OMG, I seriously hope there are no FE's on PW😫 Just Pinfireman so far (joking) 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB1 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Just Pinfireman so far (joking) 😂 His jokes are too good for that to be true😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 3 hours ago, KB1 said: OMG, I seriously hope there are no FE's on PW😫 I wouldn,t bet on it.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 18 hours ago, Rewulf said: "If it looks like a chicken, and clucks like a chicken..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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