pigeon controller Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Retsdon said: You're correct of course. I forgot it was only day 4! JDog wrong, Never!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 So now we have calls for a knighthood. These so called honours are pretty much worthless these days. Score some runs in your chosen sport. Score a goal or get a try. Win at tennis.get 180 in darts. 147 at snooker. even politicians just because they are there. Can't be long before all sporting venues will have a box of honours by the exit for players to pick up on the way home. Why are they not just for those who show great courage or carry out acts for no gain to themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 26/08/2019 at 16:39, bostonmick said: So now we have calls for a knighthood. These so called honours are pretty much worthless these days. Score some runs in your chosen sport. Score a goal or get a try. Win at tennis.get 180 in darts. 147 at snooker. even politicians just because they are there. Can't be long before all sporting venues will have a box of honours by the exit for players to pick up on the way home. Why are they not just for those who show great courage or carry out acts for no gain to themselves. It was clear to anyone watching Stokes, that he was 100% focussed on winning the game for England … not celebrating either his 50 or 100 was the evidence for that. the 25 overs bowled in the heat of the previous day, 3 runs off his first 74 balls, acceleration with Bairstow, shepherding Leach, hitting 6's when the boundary was crowded with aussies bringing joy to a nation (those who can experience it anyway!) not forgetting what he did in the World Cup I'm 100% comfortable with the thought of Sir Ben … but don't expect many to be given out if the bar is set so high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: It was clear to anyone watching Stokes, that he was 100% focussed on winning the game for England … not celebrating either his 50 or 100 was the evidence for that. the 25 overs bowled in the heat of the previous day, 3 runs off his first 74 balls, acceleration with Bairstow, shepherding Leach, hitting 6's when the boundary was crowded with aussies bringing joy to a nation (those who can experience it anyway!) not forgetting what he did in the World Cup I'm 100% comfortable with the thought of Sir Ben … but don't expect many to be given out if the bar is set so high. The bar should be set high. What level is the bar for the singer who earns 100+ million then gets a gong for services to music total nonesense a footballer earning 250k a week where does that bar sit. Advisers to some of our failed prime ministers now there is a bar you would have to limbo under. They should be for acts of bravery over and above the norm or unselfish acts carried out to benefit others with no gain to themselves. The Liverpool football team pulled off a unbelievable victory in the European Cup but I notice they never got knighthoods yet brought a lot of pride and pleasure to people. Almost every day there is an act of bravery carried out by some ordinary member of the public some risking their own life to save another don't see them lining up to get the tap on the shoulders. Edited August 28, 2019 by bostonmick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, bostonmick said: The bar should be set high. What level is the bar for the singer who earns 100+ million then gets a gong for services to music total nonesense a footballer earning 250k a week where does that bar sit. Advisers to some of our failed prime ministers now there is a bar you would have to limbo under. They should be for acts of bravery over and above the norm or unselfish acts carried out to benefit others with no gain to themselves. The Liverpool football team pulled off a unbelievable victory in the European Cup but I notice they never got knighthoods yet brought a lot of pride and pleasure to people. Almost every day there is an act of bravery carried out by some ordinary member of the public some risking their own life to save another don't see them lining up to get the tap on the shoulders. Honours are used by the Government of the day for political purposes, as a reward for services rendered, as payment for support...... to patronise cooperative "friends" or to buy off uncooperative ones! And always has it been thus....how did rich landowners get their current titles and holdings? Given to their forbears in the distant past by the monarch, as payment for services rendered or as a bribe not to oppose the crown! Nowadays they chuck in one or two 'celebrity'' figures......and the odd deserving recipient.........just to demonstrate the whole system isn't mired in bribery and corruption! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 I am not sure that anyone has actually recommended Stokes for a Knighthood so what is all of this heated rhetoric about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, JDog said: I am not sure that anyone has actually recommended Stokes for a Knighthood so what is all of this heated rhetoric about? There wasn't anywhere, until just recently, to vent spleen about Brexit 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted August 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 there is always some one somewhere who hijacks a topic... this was meant light hearted to give Ben stokes the praise he deserves for the innings he delivered not to start the political drivel about him being knighted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 Hijacking a topic on PW for your own means surely not, seen it to many times by a few protagonists. Ben Stokes played an excellent game for which he deserves all of the credits lorded upon him, but the question remains does he own a Beretta or not, that is the question 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 I for one am really glad. Ignore the knighthood business. However, Sports Personality of the Year? surely he's a shoe in. After his heroics in the world cup, and now this, I'm not sure anyone's done more on a purely sporting level? Then there's the manner in which he's conducted himself since the Bristol fiasco. He's got his head down and worked hard to regain his teammates' and the public's trust. He's not shied away from it, but has made it abundantly clear he's learned lessons. He's developing into an excellent role model. Well played, sir, well played indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 26/08/2019 at 08:31, Retsdon said: The basics are simple enough. Each team takes it in turn to either bat or field. But understand that there are basically two formats of the game - the traditional format and the limited overs format. In the traditional format, within the time available, ( 5 or 3 days for test and 1st class cricket) in order to win you need to a) score more runs than the opposition and b) take all the opposition's wickets (bowl them out). In other words you need to win both a fielding and a batting battle. However, in the limited overs format (an over is 6 balls bowled from one end) a team only needs to score more runs (the batting battle). Each team gets a specific number of overs to field/bat and at the finish the team with the most runs wins, regardless of how many wickets they take. The World Cup is limited over format and test match cricket is traditional format. And the two are akin to draughts and chess. As for the the 'in game' rules, they're the same in both formats and are mostly simple enough. *'Runs' are scored by the batsmen running to the other end and grounding their bats in a marked area. There's a batsman at either and and both have to run and cross on the way. A batsman is out if: - 1. the bowler knocks his stumps over. (out 'bowled') 2. a fielder catches a shot he hit before the ball touches the ground (out 'caught') 3. he fends a bowled ball off with his leg that would otherwise have hit the stumps ( out' LBW'). 4. A fielders can knock over the stumps while a batsman is running* and out of his marked area (out 'run out') 5. A fielder (usually the wicketkeeper) knocks a batsman's stumps (the three sticks) over and a batsman has both feet out the marked area while playing the ball. ( out 'stumped') And that's pretty much it. Your example of 105-3 means that a team has scored a 105 runs and lost 3 wickets ( 3 batsmen have come in been got out). A 'googly is a specific kind of delivery (a straight armed throw basically) . Of course like any game there are specific terms and field positions that need to be learned, and within the game there are lots of tactics and strategies that will only become apparent from time spent watching the game - just like rugby or whatever. The only thing is that traditional cricket undoubtedly has more of these variables. But I"d say that it's a game that's worth getting to know. Certainly for me at least, test cricket at its best is the absolute king of ball sports. have read yours and other posts thanks, getting a grip on cricket starting to understand more as not brought up with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Pigeon Shredder. said: but the question remains does he own a Beretta or not, that is the question I heard he owns a baikal which he uses as a bat when not shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, bostonmick said: I heard he owns a baikal which he uses as a bat when not shooting. Excellent choice, perfect for both jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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