Demonic69 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Hi All I've been using a manual wood smoker for a year or so and getting decent results. I'm trying to get hold of some different woods, cherry, hickory etc. Locally I can't seem to find anyone and on-line seems to be very expensive. Local retailers sell hardwood for smoking, but rarely say what type of wood it is and it tends to be beech, ash or birch as far as I can tell - none of which are great for smoking food. Just wondering if you guys have found a decent source or have suggestions on where to look. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 arbtalk.co.uk would be worth a look - forum for tree surgeons etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy69 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Beech and birch are both good for smoking. Beech is a good for everything and birch has a slightly sweet smoke similar to maple best used for white meats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, stumpy69 said: Beech and birch are both good for smoking. Beech is a good for everything and birch has a slightly sweet smoke similar to maple best used for white meats. I don't mind them but the Mrs says they leave a bitter taste compared to when I use Oak, especially when used in the pizza oven. Have you noticed that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, Demonic69 said: I don't mind them but the Mrs says they leave a bitter taste compared to when I use Oak, especially when used in the pizza oven. Have you noticed that? Check out the various 'smoking' videos available on youtbe. There are a number fromTexas and I know for sure on one it mentioned why the bitter taste was caused. I cut small amounts of plum, cherry, apple and oak and just small branches 2 inches maximum, split them and hang them up in the shed to dry for a couple of years. String vegetable bags are good for this and put a date on. I then cut the dried wood into chunks to put on top of the hot coals and I soak the wood for an hour or so before doing this, it then stops it bursting into flame. If you see a dead tree branch which has been down for a few years then ideal to harvest a few bits from it as it will be pretty dry. AND it is all free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy69 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Demonic69 said: I don't mind them but the Mrs says they leave a bitter taste compared to when I use Oak, especially when used in the pizza oven. Have you noticed that? Probably because the wood you are using isn't seasoned properly but the oak is, if anything beech and birch should be producing a much softer smoke than oak which can be overpowering. Airflow makes a big difference, too much smoke is bad and gives a bitter taste, it should be a light wispy almost light blue smoke not a thick smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 I have a converted 45 gallon drum which has a rack about 2ft above the heat source/smoke. I am very careful to not put too much wood on the coals and you can add a bit more afterwards. As said above a 'gentle' amount of smoke over a long period is best. I do a full beef brisket and set the fire at 6am put the meat on the rack about 6.45 and add a couple of chncks of wood at that time, then check again about two hours afterwrds and add a couple more if needed. Then let it sit four about four hours and check again and maybe ad a few more bits of charcoal if the temp is falling. Keep a steady heat on until about 2pm and then wrap the brisket in foil and put it back on. About 6pm it is ready to carve. So far so good and very little of the brisket has been left by friends enjoying the meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 a bag of sterilized mixed chippings from the pet shops , use it mostly for the pigeon , but marinate the pigeon the day before , works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 I'm good with the smoke control, thin light blue smoke is the norm... Mostly. I've done brisket and ribs recently and they've all been cooked great (wireless probes FTW). I do steak on a salt block too, takes a while but the results are worth it. TBH I usually end up with shop bought "hardwood", especially for the pizza oven, so it's probably of questionable quality. The oak I get is from a local joinery firm and is usually clean and burns well. I'll see if I can source some better quality stuff and not shy away from certain woods. I'd read they were bitter so assumed it was the species rather than the type I'd bought. If it works ok for you guys I'm happy to give it another go as it's a damn sight easier to get 😁 Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenshank1 Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 I have used pine and spruce branches and there cones , I used them green unseasoned and they were fine. You can use any wood seasoned or unseasoned all depends on the taste your after , I have done Canada goose breasts and the usual summer mackerel. If your getting chips or sawdust make sure it's not from chainsaw and only from chipper or planer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 08/01/2020 at 09:51, Demonic69 said: Hi All I've been using a manual wood smoker for a year or so and getting decent results. I'm trying to get hold of some different woods, cherry, hickory etc. Locally I can't seem to find anyone and on-line seems to be very expensive. Local retailers sell hardwood for smoking, but rarely say what type of wood it is and it tends to be beech, ash or birch as far as I can tell - none of which are great for smoking food. Just wondering if you guys have found a decent source or have suggestions on where to look. Cheers Hi there's a bloke on Facebook marketplace selling oak sawdust for smoking fish & meat £2 a bag ,in the Chesterfield area ! I hope this is of help ? atb DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafod Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Dont quote me on this but i dont think pine is a very good idea for smoke curing because of the creosote it produces But you wont go far wrong with the old traditional staples namely oak , beech , ash , apple , alder , maple , or its European competitor sycamore have heard that sweet chestnut ( not to be confused with the horse chestnut or conker ) produces a nice flavour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 9 hours ago, hafod said: Dont quote me on this but i dont think pine is a very good idea for smoke curing because of the creosote it produces But you wont go far wrong with the old traditional staples namely oak , beech , ash , apple , alder , maple , or its European competitor sycamore have heard that sweet chestnut ( not to be confused with the horse chestnut or conker ) produces a nice flavour What hafod says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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