Plas to fibre

[Farmboy91]

For the experienced home loaders out there, is emptying the shot and was from a plas cartridges and refilling it with a fibre wad of the appropriate size and then shot and recrimping as simple as that?

Not fussed about the time involved etc.

[dipper]

Opening the crimp is hardest part .Why would you want to do that?.

[lancer425]

In theory subbing a fibre where a plas once lived will not create more pressure, but equally it might not perform the way iy did as a plaswad either. Its just not practical. and really needs testing. But if anything most times it will make less pressure not typically more. Do yourself a favour, just buy fibres. Its not practical.

[Farmboy91]

11 minutes ago, dipper said:

Opening the crimp is hardest part .Why would you want to do that?.

 

6 minutes ago, lancer425 said:

In theory subbing a fibre where a plas once lived will not create more pressure, but equally it might not perform the way iy did as a plaswad either. Its just not practical. and really needs testing. But if anything most times it will make less pressure not typically more. Do yourself a favour, just buy fibres. Its not practical.

I've already got some plas that no doubt I will use before these 5 years are up but now I'm limited on where I can use them. 

I've got a slab of melior vit 33 no4's and I've found them ideal on rabbits in the past. Hopefully will be doing a bit more shooting this year and if the ground I'm after comes off it will be mainly rabbits and fibre only. 

Just wanted to know how feasible it was, I won't be buying any plas from now on apart from clay loads.

Edited May 8, 2020 by Farmboy91
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[Guest cookoff013]

Dont do it.

 

[Walker570]

Just get some new cases and transfer the shot and mayne the primer. You don't know what powder is in there so tip that in a sfe place like over your lawn as it is good fertilizer.  Not worth risk of blowing yourself up.

[snow white]

Definitely not worth the trouble 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

22 minutes ago, cookoff013 said:

Dont do it.

 

 

7 minutes ago, snow white said:

Definitely not worth the trouble 

Not so much the trouble as the safety issue!

[Farmboy91]

That's that then 😂

Cheers everyone for your input 👍

@Walker570 I might well do that with anything I have left when the time comes 👍

Shame really as at the price for me they are a hard cartridge to beat.

[DUNKS]

35 minutes ago, Walker570 said:

Just get some new cases and transfer the shot and mayne the primer. You don't know what powder is in there so tip that in a sfe place like over your lawn as it is good fertilizer.  Not worth risk of blowing yourself up.

How would you transfer the primer please?

[sitsinhedges]

1 hour ago, DUNKS said:

How would you transfer the primer please?

You wouldn't without knowing exactly what it is. 

[Walker570]

2 hours ago, DUNKS said:

How would you transfer the primer please?

Just pop it out and pop it back in.  Not difficult at all and do it frequently when a shell goes wrong. Waste not want not.  Do it with the de primer on my loader...careflly of course... but no different to pushing it in.  Unless your stoking up on powder to dangerous levels the primer will not be a big problem on pressures.  Been reclaiming them for 40yrs not a problem.

Edited May 8, 2020 by Walker570

[snow white]

Primer is no trouble to get out but like walker said don’t go mad at it I myself have done it for about 40 years 

[DUNKS]

Thanks I have put a lot in but was very wary of pressing one out.

[enfieldspares]

When the gunshops start selling replacment left hands at £120 a thousand I'll maybe consider it. Until then I'll not do it. Why not just sell the plastic wad cartridges that you have and use the money to buy fibre wadded cartridges?

[Farmboy91]

10 minutes ago, enfieldspares said:

When the gunshops start selling replacment left hands at £120 a thousand I'll maybe consider it. Until then I'll not do it. Why not just sell the plastic wad cartridges that you have and use the money to buy fibre wadded cartridges?

Because it's not worth selling them, I'll just use them up where I can. Been looking around but can seem to find anything comparable in lead fibre.

[enfieldspares]

I think it's probably, yes, the safer option just to use them where and when it's permitted. The worry I'd have is a change in pressure caused by the change of wad from plastic to fibre and also at the other end of the spectrum a loose re-crimp giving low pressure such that you have a wad that doesn't exit the barrel when the shot is fired. 

[Farmboy91]

Yeah not the end of the world, just thought I'd ask the question as it's better to be safe than sorry. 

Will have to start the search for another rabbit cart.

[enfieldspares]

There's a shed load of 12 bore cartridges in Holt's Sealed Bid of all shot sizes, chamber lengths, and some too with fibre wads.

[Farmboy91]

I did have a browse of them, takes near on 2 hours to get up there for me though which is unfortunate. 

[enfieldspares]

Wow! That's a long old slog. Yes I can see why that's not realistic. I am registered on The Saleroom Dot Com (well that's how you say it not write it of course). It costs nothing and you can search using the keyword "cartridges" and indeed also set a distance from any postcode you'd care to input. There are a good few rural auctions where odd lots come up in a general sale of interest to us shooting folk. Hope it helps!

[Farmboy91]

Cheers I'd not seen that one before, I'll give it a look.

The problem with Holt's is that on a map it doesn't look that far but anyone who's been to the king's Lynn area should be able to vouch that it's no where near anything 😂 it's all piddly B roads that make it such a drag. I got away with going last time cause I told the missus we'd have a blast along the coast road to Cromer, (one of my favourites) and get her a crab along the way. 

I'd use alphamax but don't fancy paying £11+ a box 😬

[enfieldspares]

Great though is a trip to Holt's if you like caravan spotting! I travel there from Leicester on the A47 and find a Wednesday the best day to go.