Browning 325/425 20 gauge

[Cumbrian]

Anyone know if Browning scaled down the 20 gauge guns in their 325/425 series i.e. action and pistol grip, as well as obviously the barrels? I am quite interested in acquiring one and the scaling down would be a bonus, if it applies. I seem to recall that they were scaled down, but others will know better than I do.

[London Best]

I know nowt about this, but from observation it looks to me as if the 28 and .410 is built on a 20 action.

[Cumbrian]

27 minutes ago, London Best said:

I know nowt about this, but from observation it looks to me as if the 28 and .410 is built on a 20 action.

That is a very helpful point, and it makes entire sense for there to have been a separate 20 gauge action with the other small gauges in the manufacturer's mind. Thank you.

[button]

1 hour ago, London Best said:

I know nowt about this, but from observation it looks to me as if the 28 and .410 is built on a 20 action.

That is correct, I also believe that the new 16 bore 525 is also on the action of a 20, not seen or handled one but am keen to

[welshwarrior]

Yes the 20 bore is a scaled down action but the 28s aren’t.   
 

Lovely little guns wish still had one at times. 

[Cumbrian]

Very many thanks to all of you for your informed posts. Just what I had hoped for. I am encouraged to go ahead with a purchase, either now or later. (I am in need a bit of a treat at the moment, though whether I deserve one is another matter.)

[theshootist]

My wife has a 20bore 425. Its positively miniature next to my 325. A lovely thing. 

[London Best]

But the 28’s and .410’s are “oversized”.

[button]

51 minutes ago, London Best said:

But the 28’s and .410’s are “oversized”.

And?

[London Best]

1 hour ago, button said:

And?

And the point of a .410 is that it doesn’t weigh 6 3/4 lbs.

Edited June 22, 2020 by London Best

[button]

In your opinion  

Some want the smaller guage but the"bigger gun feel"

Each to their own I guess

[London Best]

Would you buy a twelve that weighed the same as a four bore?

[button]

Not quite sure its the same, but you know what, if that's what I wanted well yes I would

[gamekeeper1960]

I have a 525 20 gauge as well a XSH 12 gauge and the 20 is a very scalded down version and with a the straight hand stock it handles brilliantly as a game gun ...

[Zimtrout]

Has anyone seen a 16 gauge 525???

[button]

2 hours ago, gamekeeper1960 said:

I have a 525 20 gauge as well a XSH 12 gauge and the 20 is a very scalded down version and with a the straight hand stock it handles brilliantly as a game gun ...

I have been looking for a 20 with a shs unfortunately not in their current offering in the UK

[muffin]

I have a 325 20 bore with 2 stocks intend to put on here

[Old Boggy]

On 22 June 2020 at 11:15, button said:

That is correct, I also believe that the new 16 bore 525 is also on the action of a 20, not seen or handled one but am keen to

Looking at the various adverts on GT for 16g Browning 525s they all seem to weigh in excess of 7 lbs, which to my mind defeats the object of a 16. I therefore doubt very much whether they are on a 20g action, but not too sure about this.

Have just watched a short YouTube video by Tim Bridge (the late Colin Bridge's son) of Countryways Guns where he 'suspects' but not too sure, that it's on a dedicated 16g action. 

The only 16s that I know are on dedicated actions and weigh in the region of 6 1/2 lbs are the Lincoln range and possibly the more expensive guns by Chapuis.

OB

[button]

1 hour ago, Old Boggy said:

Looking at the various adverts on GT for 16g Browning 525s they all seem to weigh in excess of 7 lbs, which to my mind defeats the object of a 16. I therefore doubt very much whether they are on a 20g action, but not too sure about this.

Have just watched a short YouTube video by Tim Bridge (the late Colin Bridge's son) of Countryways Guns where he 'suspects' but not too sure, that it's on a dedicated 16g action. 

The only 16s that I know are on dedicated actions and weigh in the region of 6 1/2 lbs are the Lincoln range and possibly the more expensive guns by Chapuis.

OB

Having just checked the browning site the shadow 20 is listed as weighing 3.2kg, which would certainly suggest it is on a 20 action

[Zimtrout]

mmm, i have a "white lightening 16 gauge and it is on a much smaller action than my previous 525 12 gauge, like you gents say part of the joy of a 16 is the lightness, "shoots like a 12 handles like a 20" i will stick mine on the scales, i have a straight hand  version stock with an extension. 

if that shadow is on a specific 16 sized action that would be a temptation......

[Old Boggy]

2 hours ago, button said:

Having just checked the browning site the shadow 20 is listed as weighing 3.2kg, which would certainly suggest it is on a 20 action

So just over 7 lbs then. Still seems a bit heavy for a 20.

[button]

50 minutes ago, Zimtrout said:

mmm, i have a "white lightening 16 gauge and it is on a much smaller action than my previous 525 12 gauge, like you gents say part of the joy of a 16 is the lightness, "shoots like a 12 handles like a 20" i will stick mine on the scales, i have a straight hand  version stock with an extension. 

if that shadow is on a specific 16 sized action that would be a temptation......

You interested in selling?

[London Best]

I think Beretta 20’s weigh 6 lbs to 6 lbs 2 oz, ( exactly the same as my lightweight English 12 bore.) I believe Browning 20’s to be heavier.

[gamekeeper1960]

13 hours ago, button said:

I have been looking for a 20 with a shs unfortunately not in their current offering in the UK

No a very rare beast over here I'm afraid but keep an eye on gun trader every now and then they do turn up..must say I love mine best handling game gun I've ever owned. .👍

Ps handles 32g Black Golds a treat. ..😊

Edited June 26, 2020 by gamekeeper1960

[bigroomboy]

I find the handling of browning/miroku 20b is fantastic as a game gun. The weight around 7 lb suites me but has great balance. I also prefer the proportions/aesthetics of the browning action in 20b - it feels less bulky. I've got a Miroku mk60 20b g5, love it, shot my best season with it last year, but the ejectors do seem to be a bit of an issue. My top one is fussy on cartridges and a friends 725 would hardly extract the cartridges.