Danger-Mouse Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 Flechette shotgun rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 Funnily enough just watched this five minutes ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 Got some real ones somewhere I believe from Iraq. Nasty **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Tad illegal i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, cookoff013 said: Tad illegal i think What makes you think that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Because it doesnt meet any legal criteria for the uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 I’m not really sure what purpose they would serve that any other hard hitting buckshot couldn’t also serve, other than to administer horrific untreatable wounds.🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Back in the late 80s I had a hunting client out in Texas who had one of those little arrows stuck in his hat band. I enquired and he told me he was part of the small team who came up with the idea and they where originally designed to be packed into personel mines. A thousand or so in an array....nasty!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Scully said: I’m not really sure what purpose they would serve that any other hard hitting buckshot couldn’t also serve, other than to administer horrific untreatable wounds.🤷♂️ They slice straight through “bullet proof” vests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 I also believe its illegal to own armour piercing bullets. I read it somewhere. I looked into what i can reload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: They slice straight through “bullet proof” vests. Yeah, I saw that; two of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Scully said: Yeah, I saw that; two of them. That’s what they use them for, (soft) armoured targets ... buckshot won’t go through a vest rated for pistols etc. Those things will slice right through. Terrifying to come face to face with one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Who is 'they', the military? I'm not aware of their being used in a civil capacity, and as far as I know any military body armour designed to protect the vitals is steel based, but I could be wrong. Personally I'd rather use buckshot; the entire point of a shotgun charge is to pepper the target....face, eyes, neck, head, groin, legs. Whilst I can see either would be devastating in a claymore type device, I genuinely can't see any advantage over buckshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Walker570 said: Back in the late 80s I had a hunting client out in Texas who had one of those little arrows stuck in his hat band. I enquired and he told me he was part of the small team who came up with the idea and they where originally designed to be packed into personel mines. A thousand or so in an array....nasty!! The one I'm on about somewhere was from Iraq and it was designed to be a (bear with me I have no technical terms) a bomb/missile that exploded at a set height and thousands of these were packed in it to take out crouds. I don't believe it was aimed at him but happened to come upon it on patrol. Might even of been American Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, strimmer_13 said: The one I'm on about somewhere was from Iraq and it was designed to be a (bear with me I have no technical terms) a bomb/missile that exploded at a set height and thousands of these were packed in it to take out crouds. I don't believe it was aimed at him but happened to come upon it on patrol. Might even of been American I think there was an anti personnel mine designed to ‘spring’ into the air on tripping, and detonate at waist height, but I can’t recall which campaign it was. Vietnam? Bosnia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Scully said: Who is 'they', the military? I'm not aware of their being used in a civil capacity, and as far as I know any military body armour designed to protect the vitals is steel based, but I could be wrong. Some are steel or titanium. A lot now are ceramic or even plastic - Multi-layered sheets/plates of ultra high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE) can provide an added ballistic enhancement equal to or even greater than metal plates with less weight. UHMWPE plates are often referred to as being ten times stronger than steel 4 minutes ago, Scully said: I think there was an anti personnel mine designed to ‘spring’ into the air on tripping, and detonate at waist height, but I can’t recall which campaign it was. Vietnam? Bosnia? Bouncing Betty. Vietnam iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mr_Nobody said: Some are steel or titanium. A lot now are ceramic or even plastic - Multi-layered sheets/plates of ultra high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE) can provide an added ballistic enhancement equal to or even greater than metal plates with less weight. UHMWPE plates are often referred to as being ten times stronger than steel Bouncing Betty. Vietnam iirc. Thanks for that. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Scully said: Thanks for that. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirokuMK70 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr_Nobody said: Bouncing Betty. Vietnam iirc. Actually ww2 originally - the german S mine... the usa and ussr made their own versions of it for use in the vietnam war. Nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 They were used in Vietnam in 12b guns as it apparently cut through the bush better. Bigger ones are fired by the apache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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