Centrepin Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 My son has his FAC interview on 8th September. Subject to successful completion he has already decided on 3 guns, with telescopic scopes. I'm looking for advice on a scope for Christmas. I know very little about modern technology. So should I be looking at a Range finder? Night vision? Or Thermal imaging ? Any particular makes or models in fact anything at all will point me in the right direction. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Although one could take a flyer at which three they'd be, it would still be guesswork. Giving the calibres would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Hello, what 3 rifles is he looking to buy ? Are you looking to buy a scope ? Or one of your 3 items listed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 And your budget and what he intends to shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Christopher Jones Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 useful info here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Sorry, I think he's buying telescopic sights at the same time as the rifles. .22 Rimfire, Target shooting, Rats and other small vermin. 177 HMR Unsure on this one, but Target, Rabbits, Pigeon, Corvids and possibly Fox and other vermin. .243, Deer Stalking and High seat. Other in time. Permissions already in place for all above except 243 which is high seat only. What I'm after is advice on additions "to". ie: A range finder, possibly hand held rather than mounted A night vision or thermal imager to replace a day time telescopic sight or possibly hand held. At the moment all he has is a large Police approved FAC safe, several permissions and a request for 3 differant calbre rifles. Neither of us have ever used a range finder and are only conversant with Military thermal imagers and night sites. This "site" thing is a whole new world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 OK. Not being funny .but if he /you are new to Fac guns .you really should be doing at least 6 months to a year of shooting them during daylight .no nocturnal forays until you know your way around each gun , ammo ,the land and your quarry . There is SO SO much to learn and the chance of a BIG mistake happening goes up 1000 % at night . Don't rush in learn your craft slowly . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Hello, Rimmie and HMR a Pard 007 night vision add on, the 243 a decent range finder, the 007 will need side focus or AO scopes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Ultrastu said: OK. Not being funny .but if he /you are new to Fac guns .you really should be doing at least 6 months to a year of shooting them during daylight .no nocturnal forays until you know your way around each gun , ammo ,the land and your quarry . There is SO SO much to learn and the chance of a BIG mistake happening goes up 1000 % at night . Don't rush in learn your craft slowly . Good post Sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Ultrastu said: OK. Not being funny .but if he /you are new to Fac guns .you really should be doing at least 6 months to a year of shooting them during daylight .no nocturnal forays until you know your way around each gun , ammo ,the land and your quarry . There is SO SO much to learn and the chance of a BIG mistake happening goes up 1000 % at night . Don't rush in learn your craft slowly . I appreciate your post and agree entirely with it. This will be his first FAC although he has previous Military experience, has been shooting with me since around 10 years old. I gave up in the early 2000s due to work pressure, although to be fair, outside the Army havd never hunted on my own at night. He has the offer of a once or twice weekly mentoring session, work permitting, from the owner of the shooting rights in order to gain supervised experience and hopefully within a year an open ticket. It's not an undertaking he's taking lightly and we've spent over a year setting up permissions, gaining trust and respect from land owners, farmers and owners of shooting rights. He regularly beats, picks up, shoots, shoots vermin inside barns with air rifles and although I'm obviously biased has an excellent reputation in the local shooting community and has done for around 5 years. Little compared to some, but he has actually been asked to get a FAC to help on some of his perms as Air rifle and shotgun are insufficient. He already deer stalks under supervision in Scotland. I want to support him as any Father would, despite him being nearly 40 and running his own business. I consider myself a safe handler of firearms of all types and I'm an ex skill at arms instructor, shooting coach, (not shotguns), and am range qualified. However, I consider him safer than me. This for him is an excellent opportunity to gain experience and take a step upwards in his shooting. 10 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Rimmie and HMR a Pard 007 night vision add on, the 243 a decent range finder, the 007 will need side focus or AO scopes Thanks I'll take a look at the Pard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Ill throw these in there Forget thermal for now Nv everybody raves on about pards, I know nothing but some members on here help me out via pm so might help out here as well Scopes LR, 3-9X40 Nikko or hawke Hmr - hawke vantage sf 6-24x44. Great scope. .243 - s&b, kahles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, strimmer_13 said: Ill throw these in there Forget thermal for now Nv everybody raves on about pards, I know nothing but some members on here help me out via pm so might help out here as well Scopes LR, 3-9X40 Nikko or hawke Hmr - hawke vantage sf 6-24x44. Great scope. .243 - s&b, kahles Thank you👍 I'll look into all recommendations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Look at the pard 008 to add to the scope for nighttime ratting and bunny bashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, figgy said: Look at the pard 008 to add to the scope for nighttime ratting and bunny bashing. I think you mean a 007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Rewulf you are correct sir, the 008 is a scope in itself the 007 is the add on 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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