willj Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 Evening all, I have just received my FAC after applying in June 2020, when applying I put down for 17 HMR 22CF and 22 Air, my question is can I purchase a 22LR instead of CF ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 Ask your FEO / Licencing department. Not a bunch of strangers on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 8 hours ago, willj said: Evening all, I have just received my FAC after applying in June 2020, when applying I put down for 17 HMR 22CF and 22 Air, my question is can I purchase a 22LR instead of CF ? No. You will need to apply for a variation. It is more than a RFD’s business is worth to sell you something you don’t have a slot for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Agree with this ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willj Posted October 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Thanks all, I saved the application on my work PC so need to check as I thought I put down for an 22LR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Sometimes they come back with .22RF instead of .22LR which is a bit mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, willj said: Thanks all, I saved the application on my work PC so need to check as I thought I put down for an 22LR LR is RF, it can’t be anything else, whereas the opposite isn’t true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wascal Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: Sometimes they come back with .22RF instead of .22LR which is a bit mad. .22RF covers Short , Long , Long rifle & WMR some forces can get confused about "winchester magnum RIMFIRE" I applied for a 22wmr , it came back as 22RF , new gun entered on my cert as 22RF then it mysteriously changed to 22WMR on last renewal 🤔 Edited October 18, 2020 by wascal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, willj said: Evening all, I have just received my FAC after applying in June 2020, when applying I put down for 17 HMR 22CF and 22 Air, my question is can I purchase a 22LR instead of CF ? When you put down 22CF ? What cal is exactly printed on your FAC ? Edited October 18, 2020 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 If it says 22cf no you can’t buy a 22lr 22lr is a rimfire (RF) a 22cf is a 22 centre fire two very different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 59 minutes ago, wascal said: .22RF covers Short , Long , Long rifle & WMR Yes, but it is is still mad when a specific calibre is specified. The difference in power between .22short (80ft.lbs) and .22WMR (440ft.lbs) is considerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 56 minutes ago, wascal said: .22RF covers Short , Long , Long rifle & WMR some forces can get confused about "winchester magnum RIMFIRE" I applied for a 22wmr , it came back as 22RF , new gun entered on my cert as 22RF then it mysteriously changed to 22WMR on last renewal 🤔 Mmmmm.....I already had a .22rf when Ruger brought out their WMR, and when I applied for another .22rf I fully intended to buy a WMR, which I did, and it was sold to me as a .22rf and entered on my ticket as such. Licensing never adjusted it on renewal which was the way I wanted it as it meant it left my ammo allowance unaffected also. I understand things have changed nowadays, and a lot can depend on your location and your RFD, but nevertheless, not even licensing can dispute WMR isn’t a rf. With licensing adjusting your ticket it means you cannot now but anything but a .22WMR, which is fine as long as you’re happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 If youve got 22cf on your ticket just buy any 22 centrefire that will suit your needs like a 22hornet, or like a 221 fireball or a 22-250 or a 220 swift. And then put back in for a rimfire afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wascal Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Scully said: With licensing adjusting your ticket it means you cannot now but anything but a .22WMR, which is fine as long as you’re happy with that. I have another 2 .22lr rifles on ticket so no problem. They increased my ammo limit as well but that is all just 22RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Benthejockey said: If youve got 22cf on your ticket just buy any 22 centrefire that will suit your needs like a 22hornet, or like a 221 fireball or a 22-250 or a 220 swift. And then put back in for a rimfire afterwards. I always thought when you apply you have got to request a specific cal eg .222 .223 etc you just can’t put down 22CF unless I am wrong like normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, wascal said: They increased my ammo limit as well but that is all just 22RF. Sorted. Common sense prevails. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Benthejockey said: If youve got 22cf on your ticket just buy any 22 centrefire that will suit your needs like a 22hornet, or like a 221 fireball or a 22-250 or a 220 swift. And then put back in for a rimfire afterwards. I would do this ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 hours ago, WalkedUp said: Yes, but it is is still mad when a specific calibre is specified. The difference in power between .22short (80ft.lbs) and .22WMR (440ft.lbs) is considerable. Please, pretty please, can I have one of those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 5 hours ago, blackbird said: I always thought when you apply you have got to request a specific cal eg .222 .223 etc you just can’t put down 22CF unless I am wrong like normal. I think you mean .222 REM or .223 REM and they aren’t calibre they are chamberings the calibre is .22 and for clarity the RF or CF is normally added. You can of course request a 222 REM etc but it asks you for calibre. Right now I can buy a .22 rf a .22 cf and a .30 all rifles. I’ll see what I find and I like instead of keep doing variations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, welshwarrior said: I think you mean .222 REM or .223 REM and they aren’t calibre they are chamberings the calibre is .22 and for clarity the RF or CF is normally added. You can of course request a 222 REM etc but it asks you for calibre. Right now I can buy a .22 rf a .22 cf and a .30 all rifles. I’ll see what I find and I like instead of keep doing variations. Try telling Suffolk that! I asked for .22CF and had to be specific ie .223 REM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, welshwarrior said: they aren’t calibre they are chamberings Very true. But as a .22 air rifle and .223 are the same calibre perhaps we generally mean chambering when we say calibre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, wymberley said: Please, pretty please, can I have one of those? Misread joules and ft.lbs, 320ft.lbs is still pretty high! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: Very true. But as a .22 air rifle and .223 are the same calibre perhaps we generally mean chambering when we say calibre? Like all those people calling bullets head enough people get it wrong for long enough and it slowly becomes an accepted norm. However the Home Office form asks for Calibre not Chambering. I and many more will continue to ask for a calibre then I’ll buy the rifle I want in this case be it a 222 223 22250 221 etc it doesn’t matter that much to me it the rifle that makes the difference. Now calibre is defined in a rifled barrel, the distance measured between opposing lands. So now we discover a 243 win isn’t a deer legal calibre as that dimension .239! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 I wish I had .22CF rather than .223REM written on my license as there have been so many bargains in that chambering recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.