Konor Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) I’ll be starting this coming season with a single barrel 10 bore. The weight runs at 8lb 9oz any advice on comfortable loads for geese ? I have a Lyman hand reloader but was hoping I could find some commercial cartridges to start me off then reload as required. Any advice appreciated. Edited July 19, 2021 by Konor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 Chamber length would be good nitro or black powder? what shot do you intend using when you reload 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Old farrier said: Chamber length would be good nitro or black powder? what shot do you intend using when you reload 🤔 Give answers to the above, pm your email address and happy to help. You have probably concluded anything heavy in that gun will rattle your teeth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dave at kelton said: Give answers to the above, pm your email address and happy to help. You have probably concluded anything heavy in that gun will rattle your teeth! 😊👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 Thats a good weight for a single, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, islandgun said: Thats a good weight for a single, Agreed but if you need 6lb of gun to comfortably take the recoil from 1oz lead it puts it into perspective. High velocities in steel compound it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, Dave at kelton said: You have probably concluded anything heavy in that gun will rattle your teeth! Every boy should shoot such a gun at least once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted July 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 Thanks for taking the time to reply.The 10 is a relatively modern gun ,around 1960 ish it’s a zephyr honker by Sarasqueta chamber length is 3 1/2 inches. I’d be using it on the foreshore and inland so both lead and non toxic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted July 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Dave at kelton said: Give answers to the above, pm your email address and happy to help. You have probably concluded anything heavy in that gun will rattle your teeth! I’ve put a lot of 1 and 5/8 oz through an aya cosmos 3 inch and 1 and 7/8 oz through both an aya number 3 magnum and classic doubles 101 and found it acceptable at the time. Few shots and the excitement of getting a shot seems to combine to distract from the wallop. The 10 is an unknown though, although a while back I was occasionally able to borrow an aya side by side or remington semi 10 for going down the shore but that was before the lead ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted July 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 I’ve just started on the stock ,it was very light and varnished when it arrived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, Konor said: I’ve just started on the stock ,it was very light and varnished when it arrived Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 You could always put some lead in the stock …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 53 minutes ago, Konor said: Thanks for taking the time to reply.The 10 is a relatively modern gun ,around 1960 ish it’s a zephyr honker by Sarasqueta chamber length is 3 1/2 inches. I’d be using it on the foreshore and inland so both lead and non toxic. Steel load for 3.5” 10 bore guns that can take it, and I can’t advise on that, is 42gns Alliant Steel and 42 gms of steel shot using a TPS plastic wad. 1 hour ago, London Best said: Every boy should shoot such a gun at least once! I did, my first ten bore was a single but I quickly learned in the days of paper cases that you get a jam with geese streaming over your head and you are screwed without a weighted pull through or rod.🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swan40 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 I would love to know how you get on with it. I would suggest as you only have one shot you will not notice the recoil if it works , If it dose not a different Story . I had a single 8 great fun but I can't remember having to get help to carry the bag of the marsh. Did it come from holts ? just because I wanted it but my wife resisted it for me. hope you enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted July 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, swan40 said: I would love to know how you get on with it. I would suggest as you only have one shot you will not notice the recoil if it works , If it dose not a different Story . I had a single 8 great fun but I can't remember having to get help to carry the bag of the marsh. Did it come from holts ? just because I wanted it but my wife resisted it for me. hope you enjoy it. It did come from Holts from their unsold lots. The barrels are sound clean with no pitting and probably reblued . The stock was very pale in colour but I’ve stained and red oiled it and that’s bringing out the grain. I’m quite happy to come off a flight with one goose so no concerns about only having the one shot. There will be a lack of a follow up shot on a wounded bird but that can happen on your second shot when you have two barrels available. I’m looking forward to getting out with it I’ll update when the season opens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted July 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave at kelton said: Steel load for 3.5” 10 bore guns that can take it, and I can’t advise on that, is 42gns Alliant Steel and 42 gms of steel shot using a TPS plastic wad. I did, my first ten bore was a single but I quickly learned in the days of paper cases that you get a jam with geese streaming over your head and you are screwed without a weighted pull through or rod.🤬 What would be a practical alternative to steel on the shore for a light 10 bore? I would probably be using less than 50 cartridges a season. I wouldn’t want to be putting maximum loads through the gun but was hoping for a nicely balanced load that would pattern well from its 1/2 choke and perhaps accept that I would have to limit my range. 1 hour ago, Smokersmith said: You could always put some lead in the stock …. Thats a good idea and may be an option that I’ll go with once I’ve had a few shots with it. Stock is solid so I would need to bore out some wood to accommodate the lead. What would be a reasonable weight to add ? Edited July 19, 2021 by Konor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 39 minutes ago, Konor said: What would be a practical alternative to steel on the shore for a light 10 bore? I would probably be using less than 50 cartridges a season. I wouldn’t want to be putting maximum loads through the gun but was hoping for a nicely balanced load that would pattern well from its 1/2 choke and perhaps accept that I would have to limit my range. Thats a good idea and may be an option that I’ll go with once I’ve had a few shots with it. Stock is solid so I would need to bore out some wood to accommodate the lead. What would be a reasonable weight to add ? Personally I’d perfect one load for the gun and one medium it’ll keep the cost down one powder one wad one type of shot also it’ll save confusion it’ll take you a bit of time to get a load that suits your gun just my thoughts 👍😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted July 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Personally I’d perfect one load for the gun and one medium it’ll keep the cost down one powder one wad one type of shot also it’ll save confusion it’ll take you a bit of time to get a load that suits your gun just my thoughts 👍😊 Thanks for that it seems a sensible way to proceed. I was thinking of a sub 2 oz lead load for inland and a load for the shore but don't know what is my best option for a non toxic load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 It looks to be a very nice gun with a proper side lock action. You mention Sarasqueta. If that is Victor Sarasqueta it will likely be a very good quality, well made gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Konor said: Thanks for that it seems a sensible way to proceed. I was thinking of a sub 2 oz lead load for inland and a load for the shore but don't know what is my best option for a non toxic load. I’d go for a steel load that you can use in both places or you could need two different powders two types of wads and assortment of shot sizes and types and possibly case length dave has given you a good starting point clay and game have some good data sheets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted July 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, Old farrier said: I’d go for a steel load that you can use in both places or you could need two different powders two types of wads and assortment of shot sizes and types and possibly case length dave has given you a good starting point clay and game have some good data sheets Thanks I get your reasoning. I was hoping someone would advise on non steel non toxic loads and the practicality of using them in a 10 bore load. I have no idea of cost but was hoping that reloading around 50 cartridges a year would be a possibility expense wise. I have never reloaded before so I am at the start of what is probably going to be a steep learning curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Konor said: Thanks I get your reasoning. I was hoping someone would advise on non steel non toxic loads and the practicality of using them in a 10 bore load. I have no idea of cost but was hoping that reloading around 50 cartridges a year would be a possibility expense wise. I have never reloaded before so I am at the start of what is probably going to be a steep learning curve. Price it up for a 50/60 gram load you can get a price for bismuth or atm online and you will see why power shot ATM £75 kilo steel shot £18 for 5 kilos Edited July 20, 2021 by Old farrier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 20 hours ago, Konor said: Thats a good idea and may be an option that I’ll go with once I’ve had a few shots with it. Stock is solid so I would need to bore out some wood to accommodate the lead. What would be a reasonable weight to add ? I've seen it done on several guns, but never done it myself. One guy I know who'd shot an EELL for years and decided to change his buttpad. He had several ounces fall out with no idea they were there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 Saw a 10 bore in Whittlesey Gun shop this morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) On 20/07/2021 at 16:41, Smokersmith said: I've seen it done on several guns, but never done it myself. One guy I know who'd shot an EELL for years and decided to change his buttpad. He had several ounces fall out with no idea they were there!! I have Harrington & Richards 10g 36 inch barrel, that has a 3lb plug of lead in the stock , which helps with the balance and recoil , just to add it was in the gun when I bought it . Edited July 25, 2021 by derbyduck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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