doctorken Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just found out I've got good going hearing loss from misspent youth and shooting Thinking of options as don't want to deteriorate. have eardefenders like a cyber man now..... Ideally need quiet with range for pigeons and crows and hopefully steel shot to future proof. So either 12g or 20g. I know steel shot are fast but would still be quieter with mod I've shot a 20g mossy pump and that was pretty quiet but handled badly 1. Give up shotgunning last resort 2. Hushpower mod to my 12g silver pigeon o/u. Has anyone got one of these modded in 12 or 20g? 3. Hushpower or atec can on my escort 12g 4. Investarm o/u hushpower but not keen on fact it handles like a piece of scaffold and prob won't fit in the cabinet 5. Don't like the mossberg pumps due to stock and poi. I'm 6 foot 2.... Not adverse to reloading as quite low volume shooting Anyone got some sage wisdom and experience that may help? Cheers Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 Ear plugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorken Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 😂 yes wearing double ear protection of earplugs and ear defenders together helps but still doesn't stop the blast transmitting through the skull..... The army now use skull caps for intensive shooting situations for that reason I know a couple of the lads on here have hushpowers and the topic has prob been done to death Mainly interested in the reloading angle and whether it's worth butchering my silver pigeon or selling it to fund the replacement option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 I have never heard that before, I always thought is was the sound wave hitting your ear drum that damaged your earring hence the reason for wearing earring protection, if it is correct then a moderated gun will not help as you will still get the blast from the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 ENT consultant told me muffs better, plugs as mentioned allows vibration type noise through bones, best of all don't fire a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorken Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 Yep I wasn't always a doctor and used to often just wear ear plugs and forgot a few times It's your left ear that gets hammered as the stock protects the right one Some folk are more susceptible to it than others it seems I'd have looked silly with my ear cans on dancing on front of the speakers in the nightclub mind you 😆 It's the shock wave from the expanding gases leaving the barrel that's the trouble some will get transmitted from the breech to the air and by direct contact but its the shock wave that's the prob hence moderated gun would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 Hello, I would look at a short barrel 20 bore semi auto with muzzle threaded for different chokes to take a 20 bore Hushpower silencer with threaded adapter , look on their web site, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 As above .20b sa. With a screw on mod . Quiet enough so as not to need ear defenders . Light enough and not to long as not to ruin the gun handling. It's what I have and I love it . Better than the mossy pump 20b I had . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorken Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, I would look at a short barrel 20 bore semi auto with muzzle threaded for different Thank you thats the type of thing I was wondering about. What gun do you have it on? Cheers Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 Mine is on an armsan a620 with a 26 inch barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorken Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, doctorken said: Thank you thats the type of thing I was wondering about. What gun do you have it on? Cheers Ken Hello Ken , I don't but that's what I would get if I was in your position, like ultrastu 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorken Posted June 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 Thanks for the advice I'll see what I can find still interested to know if anyone has a beretta conversion and what its like handiling and noise wise👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 Contact Melb3, he has just made a moderator from the aluminium tube I sent him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny_blaster Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 hours ago, doctorken said: Thanks for the advice I'll see what I can find still interested to know if anyone has a beretta conversion and what its like handiling and noise wise👍 There’s a bloke on Facebook who has the Beretta conversion. I’ve spoke to him via message and he’s very pleased with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorken Posted June 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 Thanks for the ideas much appreciated Ken 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quentyn Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 18/06/2022 at 16:41, doctorken said: 2. Hushpower mod to my 12g silver pigeon o/u. Has anyone got one of these modded in 12 or 20g? i have a 20g silver pigeon, plus points: 1, its not that long compared to a mossberg silenced 2, POA isnt that bad with a comb extension its good 3, it looks really cool and no one else has one 4, its properly quiet - movie quiet Bad points: 1, its expensive 2, its a nightmare to clean ( especially if you go clay shooting with it a few times) 3, 20g subsonic 30g no5's are expensive 4, took a while to convert overall i like mine and would recommend it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorken Posted June 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 18 hours ago, quentyn said: i have a 20g silver pigeon, plus points: 1, its not that long compared to a mossberg silenced 2, POA isnt that bad with a comb extension its good 3, it looks really cool and no one else has one 4, its properly quiet - movie quiet Bad points: 1, its expensive 2, its a nightmare to clean ( especially if you go clay shooting with it a few times) 3, 20g subsonic 30g no5's are expensive 4, took a while to convert overall i like mine and would recommend it That's just the info I was looking for Cheers Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 I’ve got hearing loss 75% in left ear and 50% in the right, also tinnitus in both ears due to shotgun shooting without protection for years, Also I’ve worked with heavy machinery. My hearing consultant has told me to stop shooting which is not an option to me, as I have been a shotgun and rifle shooter for over 65 years and I don’t intend to stop now. I wear hearing aids when not shooting and now use Cens ear protection when I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamekeeperwales Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 19/06/2022 at 19:59, quentyn said: i have a 20g silver pigeon, plus points: 1, its not that long compared to a mossberg silenced 2, POA isnt that bad with a comb extension its good 3, it looks really cool and no one else has one 4, its properly quiet - movie quiet Bad points: 1, its expensive 2, its a nightmare to clean ( especially if you go clay shooting with it a few times) 3, 20g subsonic 30g no5's are expensive 4, took a while to convert overall i like mine and would recommend it I wouldn’t say it’s expensive myself like £700 with postage for a gun a conversion you can shoot literally next to padkham and he would do there it lol I love mine best money I’ve spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazv Posted August 4, 2022 Report Share Posted August 4, 2022 I’ve got a hushpower moss berg pump in 20g yeah it’s a bit heavy but it’s an amazing tool and makes supersonic cartridges fine without ear defenders especially so with subs. I’ve also got a norica 3shot bolt action .410 that I’ve made a moderator for and is quiter than a mates hushpower and I love it so much but notice a huge difference in stopping power. I’d go for a 20g hushpower cracking tool! I’ve used a 12 and it’s a tank of a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 6, 2022 Report Share Posted August 6, 2022 Hello, what did you decide on with this ken ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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